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Conveniences, automation, safety plans, etc. Everyone loves winging it and having piles of chores, but then they complain about life being hard, but then they don't change anything

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[–] Bo7a@lemmy.ca 25 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

All of you writing cogent arguments and being philosophical should step back and realize this whole thread is an unpaid advertisement for amazon subscription groceries written by someone who thinks they were saved by a job there.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 6 points 2 hours ago

I'm glad this is the top comment because lordy have mercy, what is OP on about.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 4 points 2 hours ago

OP, someone with a different routine for chores is not "vehemently against an easier life" lmao.

[–] papalonian@lemmy.world 28 points 7 hours ago (4 children)

I opened the thread thinking, "this has to be a bait post where the op just soapboxes about how much better at life they are than everyone else, and argues with literally everyone offering perspective" and I'm glad to see I was not wrong! Boy if your replies aren't some of the least self aware, most elitist stuff I've seen here so far.

I dunno man, why doesn't everyone with actual problems just ahh, buy an Android phone, learn how to program or do whatever the hell else you think everyone should be doing to just simply live the obviously better life that you have?

Oh wait, not everyone has the same opportunities as everyone else, and so not only may these options be unavailable to a lot of people, they may also be completely useless in solving someone's difficult life.

You sound like a Tech Bro in their early twenties who landed a sweet job out of college (that they didn't pay for) and wonders why people choose to be homeless. And before you try to correct me, that's what you sound like, so unless that's the persona you wanna give off, maybe try to listen to what people are saying instead of trying to find out how they're wrong.

Do you really think people with "difficult lives" are so stressed out because they forgot to take the garbage out multiple times? Seriously? Christ 😂

[–] Delphia@lemmy.world 11 points 4 hours ago

Good its not just me.

Thank god my smart phone can spell sanctimonious for me, its made my life so much easier.

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[–] Mac@mander.xyz 7 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (7 children)

Because all those nice-to-haves and conveniences in vehicles make it harder and more costly to repair.

Today a classmate showed me the mechanism for the gas door opener her company manufactures (assembles). It's a bunch of rods, a motor, a control board, springs, cables, etc, that run throughout the vehicle.

The fuel door on my '99 Cherokee?
A hinge and a spring.

This is obviously one small example but i feel that this example of over-engineering for very little benefit extrapolates well.

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[–] ClusterBomb@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

I've read the whole threads. I am interested in a brief, short summary of what you have automated. If I've read correctly, you hate going to the grocery, so this is automated? How? What else is automated?

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[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 3 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Because a human who doesn’t move their body becomes miserable and unhealthy. Zero is not a good level of activity.

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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Personally, I find "rough living" a helluva lot easier than the "convenient" world we have built. At least shit makes sense when you have to grow/hunt your own food, build your own shelter, etc. I would prefer to have to do all that, than the kinds of things I have to do in order to eat, have clothing and shelter, etc in society.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 57 points 12 hours ago (10 children)

A ton of automation and 'convenience' being sold is terribly thought out or makes life more complex than not having it.

Smart bulbs are way more work to set up than they are worth for me, a light switch works fine. Cruise control is nice, but lane assist drives me nuts with all the false positives. Generally the overwhelming number of chores comes from just having too many things in the first place.

Fewer, simpler operating things are more enjoyable for me than a lot of complex automated things that don't do what I want them to do.

[–] ChronosTriggerWarning@lemmy.world 2 points 14 minutes ago (1 children)

ton of automation and ‘convenience’ being sold is terribly thought out or makes life more complex than not having it.

People burning alive in Teslas because we don't want those unsightly door handles comes to mind.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 1 points 9 minutes ago

I also hate push buttons for things like starting the engine or shifting the gear mode. Please let me physically move something instead of pushing a button more than once so I don't have to take my eyes away from my surroundings in a parking lot.

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[–] DeadWorldWalking@lemmy.world 7 points 8 hours ago (6 children)

Automating labor without ensuring it doesn't impact people's ability to obtain needs and wants is objectively worse than them continuing to work

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[–] kambusha@sh.itjust.works 7 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I don't think people are, but the major factor is cost here - both in money and time. Getting a maid, a nanny, a dog walker, paying extra for delivery, paying for apps, more expensive automation products (e.g., hue) etc. etc.

All of this costs money, and a lot of time to research & test. Not everyone has that.

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[–] tiredofsametab@fedia.io 5 points 8 hours ago

This is a bit too vague for me, but I think some of what you mention sounds like inconvenience now for future convenience. For safety plan example, it's mildly inconvenient for me to get my kit together (I live in an earthquake-heavy area and just outside the tsunami hazard zone), know locations and routes, etc. but you'd best believe that it's better to pay that inconvenience now than flap if I do have to evacuate. I think timescales are important to think of (kinda like the RoI of your actions).

[–] Rookwood@lemmy.world 20 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

What are you talking about? Do you think convenience is free?

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[–] Beacon@fedia.io 10 points 11 hours ago

I don't know what you're referring to. Most people love conveniences and automation. There are extremely few cases i can think of where people choose the hard way instead of the easy way when the results are the same.

Name some specific examples of what you're talking about

[–] dumbass@leminal.space 15 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

The one thing that every human has in common is their ability to complain about anything, an alien race could come and solve every single problem on earth, with every single need want or desire fulfilled and we'd still complain.

We thrive on complaining, we need to complain.

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[–] bob_omb_battlefield@sh.itjust.works 6 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

We need to grind for a sense of pride and accomplishment.

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[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 8 points 11 hours ago
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