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Summary

Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy are leading the new Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE), tasked with recommending $500 billion in federal spending cuts.

Their agenda includes defunding organizations like Planned Parenthood and public broadcasting, using recent Supreme Court rulings to justify overturning federal regulations and enabling mass federal worker layoffs.

Critics warn this could undermine public health, civil rights, and gun control regulations.

DOGE’s recommendations, aligned with Trump’s goals, aim to scale back federal oversight and reduce spending but face legal and practical challenges. A final report is due by July 2026.

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[–] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 14 points 13 hours ago

I'm sorry for I have very little to contribute today, I just need to express how what the fuck is this timeline

[–] renrenPDX@lemmy.world 8 points 16 hours ago

500b? I thought I heard them say 2 Trillion last time…

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 46 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (3 children)

These people aren't in government.

They haven't been appointed to anything.

There isn't a new federal agency called DOGE.

Stop giving Trump all this shit.

Congress creates agencies, not a president elect. And it takes years to create an agency. A new agency created today probably wouldn't promulgate its first lawful regulation for two years.

The idea that any of this Musk shit is actually happening is Republican fan fiction.

[–] Plastic_Ramses@lemmy.world 9 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

Wrong.

Trump will create doge via executive order and the supreme court will rubber stamp it as an official act and therefore completely legal and cool.

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

It can't write a check without an act of Congress.

[–] Zess@lemmy.world 6 points 11 hours ago

You mean the completely red Congress that will do whatever Trump wants?

[–] ieatpillowtags@lemm.ee 4 points 11 hours ago

They don’t have to write checks, they can just tell the stooges installed at the top of federal agencies what to do. It’s like when a think tank writes a bill for a congressperson to introduce.

[–] Plastic_Ramses@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago

Unless trump does something illegal that the supreme court rubber stamps.

[–] islands@lemmy.cafe 14 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Trump had to reward two of his biggest bootlickers with plum jobs but didn't want them to have actual government positions, so his team came up with this. They'll make recommendations that are already in the planbook and if the courts block all their nonsense they can throw them under the bus as a distraction.

[–] Bahnd@lemmy.world 4 points 18 hours ago

This reminds me of one of the jokes from an old episode Fairlyodd Parents where they make Cosmo the "Rice President", it sounds official but is functionally meaningless. They needed to give him a promotion, but not the power to do anything.

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago

Sounds right to me.

[–] MummifiedClient5000@feddit.dk 20 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

You seem to think process matters to them at all.

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago

Not to them, no. Hopefully the institutions survive.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 65 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

They’re going to save $500B per year? That’s great! Analysts estimate that it would only cost between $11B-$30B to house all unhoused people in the US.

https://www.sciotoanalysis.com/news/2024/1/16/what-would-it-cost-to-end-homelessness-in-america

Unfortunately, they already dog-eared that money for the gestapo, and the only ‘housing’ they plan to provide are undocumented immigrant/migrant camps.

[–] riskable@programming.dev 33 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (2 children)

$500 billion in federal spending cuts.

defunding organizations like Planned Parenthood and public broadcasting

  • Planned Parenthood received about $148 million in 2021 and much of that was for providing COVID-19 vaccinations. No idea how much they're getting right now but I know it's less.
  • The Corporation for Public Broadcasting has a budget of $535 million for 2025.

If they cut both entirely that's 0.14% of that $500 billion in cuts they're promising.

[–] Frozengyro@lemmy.world 12 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

It's .14%, but yea still nothing.

[–] riskable@programming.dev 9 points 19 hours ago

Oops: Forgot that "multiply by 100" step haha. I'll fix it 👍

[–] DerArzt@lemmy.world -1 points 11 hours ago

So you're saying there will be "valid" reasons to close down the evil PP and PBS?

[–] Gork@lemm.ee 22 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

And how much of the "savings" will be recouped in the form of tax cuts for billionaires?

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 15 points 19 hours ago

Only 300% ! /s

[–] FoxyFerengi@lemm.ee 8 points 18 hours ago

They need to find workers for the jobs that 20m soon-to-be-deported immigrants do. Totally perfect plan! /jk

[–] anarchrist@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Good I've been thinking for a while that the supreme court's penchant for monarchy is what's really going to hasten their slide into illegitimacy. I'm sure firing half of DC will not cause the city where they work and maybe live to riot.

[–] chilicheeselies@lemmy.world 17 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Its notnjust DC. There are millions of federal workers all across the 50 states. I cant think of a better way to mobilize millions of voters into direct action.

We need to seize it though. Call them for what they are; job destroyers.

[–] JeffKerman1999@sopuli.xyz 6 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Do you think this will matter? Dude isn't going to be elected again, he's doing a putsch removing anyone in the army that isn't loyal to him AND he's legally allowed to kill anyone anywhere. Do some riots against armed drones and see what happens.

[–] anarchrist@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 21 hours ago

It all matters. If they kill a bunch of soccer moms who worked for HHS or some shit while out protesting, that will radicalize people more quickly than Karl Marx could ever dream of.

[–] WashedOver@lemmy.ca 13 points 22 hours ago
[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 20 hours ago

Are they going to defund the overwhelmingly wasteful MIC? Are they cutting back on Elmo's massive walfare checks?

[–] DarkGamer@fedia.io 5 points 21 hours ago

Surely that would help the economy 🙄

[–] csm10495@sh.itjust.works 0 points 20 hours ago

Could just cut military spending and waste