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Summary

Trump’s popular vote share has fallen below 50% to 49.94%, with Kamala Harris at 48.26%, narrowing his margin of victory.

Trump’s share of the popular vote is lower than Biden’s in 2020 (51.3%), Obama’s in 2012 (51.1%) and 2008 (52.9%), George W. Bush’s in 2004 (50.7%), George H.W. Bush’s in 1988 (53.2%), Reagan’s in 1984 (58.8%) and 1980 (50.7%), and Carter’s in 1976 (50.1%).

The 2024 election results highlight Trump’s narrow victory and the need for Democrats to address their mistakes and build a diverse working-class coalition.

The numbers also give Democrats a reason to push back on Trump’s mandate claims, noting most Americans did not vote for him.

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[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

At no time in the history of modern politics has the "popular vote" taken precedence over the electoral college. If you'll remember, biden's campaign made that point during his defeat of the orange 4 years ago. And the orange complained pretty loudly about it

Not to mention the numbers I saw still show he has more votes than her, he just fell below 50%, add in the people who voted for other candidates or voted for other positions and not president and she is below. I saw only 4% of votes left in California, meaning he will beat her by at least a million votes.

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[–] renegadespork@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 day ago (3 children)

The only thing of note here is that since the winner got <50%, then I’m guessing 3rd party votes were slightly higher this election.

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[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 67 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (10 children)

58% of the deciding power with just under 50% of the vote?

This might be a catalyst for states to sign the NPVIC. Pennsylvania started the process to sign on this week in legislature.

Perhaps in the past, swing states enjoyed the attention they got.

Now, I have a feeling voters are frustrated from getting way too much attention with mailers, calls, texts, illegal lotteries, news stories, events. As a bonus, voters in swing states are and will be getting outsized blame for electing the returning rapist-in-chief. Anyways a potential silver lining in the impending sea of shit.

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[–] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago
[–] cultsuperstar@lemmy.world 34 points 2 days ago (5 children)

It sucks that the Dems don't bother with a recount, even if it's still the same result. Republicans wanted recounts just about everywhere they could in 2020. Instead they just say "welp, looks like we lost. Here's the keys to the kingdom." Do some due diligence and have a damn recount.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 26 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The problem is Republicans are heartless, but Democrats are spineless.

[–] bunchberry@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Democrats are heartless genocidal freaks, and hardly "spineless" they just don't care. It's a party of billionaires. I have no idea how you can unironically believe this ethos that they're all a bunch of bleeding hearts but are just too scared, quivering in their boots to act but they all mean well... apparently! No, they just never fight for those values you want them to fight for because their party does not represent those values, and pretending they do at this point... I have a bridge to sell you.

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[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I do have problems with Democrats simply handing power to fascists that have literally told us that they will end our Republic on day 1... However, at this point, I think recounting at the level you're talking about would be a waste of time. Even if it changed the results, Republicans wouldn't accept it.

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[–] bunchberry@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Democrats like losing because they only disagree on Republicans on like 2 issues and their funding is great when Republicans are in power.

[–] nucleative@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago

Those kind of things have to be done in every single district and costs millions of dollars. Unless there's a probable chance, it's probably better to save the cash and use it for something that could get results in the future

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[–] Solitaire20X6@sh.itjust.works 21 points 2 days ago (11 children)

now take into account the massive GOP voter fraud

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[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I actually prefer him wining the popular vote. At least this time it’s what most Americans (that are willing to show up) want.

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[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 47 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Wasn't it something like he only gained about 500,000 votes from the last primary election? The reason the Democrats lost was because they lost 10,000,000 due to people just straight up not voting for Kamala by either going 3rd party, switching to Trump, or abstaining. In my opinion it wasn't really Trump's popularity that won him the election but more of just the Democrats lack of popularity.

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 34 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Democrats lack of popularity, coupled with active voter suppression tactics in numerous states, four straight years of misinformation campaigns designed to decrease voter turnout and/or drive them to third parties maliciously, and most critically, no more covid lockdowns allowing people the free time to vote. People working full time wage jobs that are most likely to vote more blue are, quite intentionally, not financially allowed to vote in person due to work scheduling; 2020 was an outlier year.

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[–] 7112@lemmy.world 31 points 2 days ago (3 children)

The big problem is we all think someone else will solve this issue. All the investigations, congress, and even the public... they did nothing.

Run for office. Start small. Kick them out of the school boards follow their playbook and work bottom up.

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