I'm glad to be here. Fuck AI
this post was submitted on 22 Apr 2024
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A place for all those who loathe AI to discuss things, post articles, and ridicule the AI hype. Proud supporter of working people. And proud booer of SXSW 2024.
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I want to apologize for changing the description without telling people first. After reading arguments about how AI has been so overhyped, I'm not that frightened by it. It's awful that it hallucinates, and that it just spews garbage onto YouTube and Facebook, but it won't completely upend society. I'll have articles abound on AI hype, because they're quite funny, and gives me a sense of ease knowing that, despite blatant lies being easy to tell, it's way harder to fake actual evidence.
I also want to factor in people who think that there's nothing anyone can do. I've come to realize that there might not be a way to attack OpenAI, MidJourney, or Stable Diffusion. These people, which I will call Doomers from an AIHWOS article, are perfectly welcome here. You can certainly come along and read the AI Hype Wall Of Shame, or the diminishing returns of Deep Learning. Maybe one can even become a Mod!
Boosters, or people who heavily use AI and see it as a source of good, ARE NOT ALLOWED HERE! I've seen Boosters dox, threaten, and harass artists over on Reddit and Twitter, and they constantly champion artists losing their jobs. They go against the very purpose of this community. If I hear a comment on here saying that AI is "making things good" or cheering on putting anyone out of a job, and the commenter does not retract their statement, said commenter will be permanently banned. FA&FO.
Fuck AI. I'm still learning lemmy.
I do want to understand, I am no "booster" by any means and I think on the whole AI is being used in some abhorrent ways, but I don't think the technology is the problem I think the problem is it's use to steal art and by corporations to cut people out of the picture, and I do think there are some beneficial applications of AI and that it is not unilaterally negative or evil. Just being used in a lot of shitty evil ways right now. Does that mean I am unwelcome here? Genuinely asking.
Eh, you're welcome here.
Original Desc: A place for all those who loathe machine-learning and its endorsement – and to document the knaves behind this dismal industry. Proud supporter of human artists. And proud booer of SXSW 2024.
I have a question about if I'm allowed to be here. Here's my stance:
- As a CS person, I find the algorithms that run AI intellectually interesting.
- The way AI is being used as a society, to put people out of work and replace human-made work with slop, is very very bad. (I support the sag-aftra strikers.)
- I think it's especially bad that artists are being put out of work, and that big companies think that copyright should protect mickey mouse and not starving artists. This is where most of my "fuck AI" drive comes from.
- I think AI could in the future be made to not be slop, with some future new algorithms, but we're not there yet. It's not theoretically impossible or anything though. Doomer opinion: if AI actually becomes as powerful as the boosters say it will be, then it could be an x-risk for humanity. I'm not saying that to make AI sound really impressive, I just think we need to be cautious about it.
- Currently, LLMs are sometimes useful, but only in the right context and when used properly. For instance, AI is pretty good at NLP. It's also useful for explaining opaque C++ error messages. It's not useful for ghiblification or summarizing search results or whatever it is Altman is trying to peddle. It might be able to help with protein folding and other pharmaceutical research.
- The biggest reason that AI is bad is because capitalism is bad. Without capitalism, we could focus on the actually good uses of AI.
I think generative AI for pure entertainment is bs "AI-Girlfriend". But also that for accessibility for blind people it might be helpful: Transcribe images into spoken text. For deaf people it might transcribe audio to text they can read on a display. And this tech uses neural nets as well. But copyrights of artists and creators all such systems are trained on should be valued, especially when sold for a profit. Training data should be made public, or the AI it is trained on hidden data should be forced to open up about their shady practices. This is where my position on "FÜCK AI" stands. Also blind trust and hype in these systems is not justified in my humble opinion.
Fuck AI but imo community names are good to be little more productive. We will just circlejerk here hard lol which is not like bad in itself but hella boooring.
Gimme a good debate with the ai bros I can watch on sidelines as smarter than me make arguments. Just warn/ban em if they are disrespectful
But maybe that’s the purpose of whole rest of the tech comms…
The types of places they're on are the mainstream sites (Reddit & Twitter), and I don't want to go there unless I have to. I honestly think a big part of the push for AI isn't popularity at all. Nobody really likes it that much. It's purely oligarchs who try to make their product look good to investors, and who see it as a way to replace human workers immensely easily. I'm unsure where the cryptocurrency-using techbros come from, tho. Maybe they're bot accounts held by very few people.