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[–] fellowmortal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 71 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I have tried freecad a number of times to replace solidworks as a critical piece of closed source software in hardware development toolchains. I have always struggled. Yesterday someone spent an hour with me at a makespace saying... "FreeCAD has a different way of doing this/try realthunder branch/use symmetry condition/delete all conditions that coincide" ... it has been worth years of trying alone. When I started solidworks the reseller gave me a week of training - this is often why complex FOSS software gets a reputation for being clunky, because alone you will spend ages hunting a GUI button in a complex interface.

TLDR: Go outside, go to makespace or a FREECAD conference - meet other people who use open source software - its much easier to use/learn from others than alone.

[–] Mex@feddit.uk 3 points 3 days ago

The best thing about 1.0 is that it has ported most fo the topalogical fixes from realthunder!

[–] Damage@feddit.it 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

When I started using SOLIDWORKS I had 0 training, still managed to make it work. FreeCAD is still frustrating after a lot of effort. But I keep trying, because it's the only real open source option

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[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 7 points 4 days ago

Well or use the forums. They have a wonderfully helpful community

[–] RoyaltyInTraining@lemmy.world 39 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Both GIMP 3 RC1 and FreeCAD 1.0 in the same month, damn

[–] ad_on_is@lemm.ee 25 points 4 days ago

We got GIMP 3 and FreeCAD 1 before we got GTA VI

[–] brightandshinyobject@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago (1 children)
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[–] Imacat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 95 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Apparently Ondsel recently announced they’re shutting down, partially due to this release. A lot of what Ondsel added to the FreeCAD experience is just merged into FreeCAD now. Sad to see it but at least all their work wasn’t for nothing.

https://ondsel.com/blog/goodbye/

[–] Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 25 points 4 days ago

Really sad to hear this, I just found out about Ondsel recently. Glad to hear FreeCAD is getting their merges, but I really would have liked to see Ondsel find a market all its own.

[–] okamiueru@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I had mixed feelings about the whole Ondsel thing. And, please correct me if I'm wrong.

Most of the significant features in 1.0, that supposedly came from Ondsel, are things that I've been using for perhaps 3 years now, with a fairly well known branch of FreeCAD called Linkstage3 by a user that goes by RealThunder.

I don't know how much he was involved in Ondsel, or the merging of those features into FreeCAD, but it sure looked like a whole lot of great work wasn't credited to mind boggling amount of work by one person.

I still use the Linkstage3 branch, because it has a lot more features still, than what was present in the 1.0 pre-release i tried some months ago. Maybe things have changed since then.

[–] bluewing@lemm.ee 8 points 4 days ago

Ondsel's goal was to make money by selling cloud services for CAD users. They were probably bound to fail in that endeavor-- and they did. Still, it was worth a shot. But their biggest contribution to FreeCAD was being the adult in the room and getting all the different groups to agree on how to move forward to solve the biggest problem, the TNP issue that FreeCAD had from the start and couldn't be arsed to fix. Ondsel's lasting contribution is the Assembly workbench that is now be the default Assembly workbench for FreeCAD. And it's a lot better than the other 3 hacked solutions.

realthunder was involved in folding his TPN solution into this 1.0 release. Though my understanding is that it's different than his implementation. He is now back to his fork and is supposedly cleaning up his code to work better with the mainline branch of FreeCAD to make his code easier to insert.

Personally, I would move to either the stable 1.0 release now or, I you are crazy like me, the 1.1 weekly releases-- brought to you on github every Tuesday and Saturday for your alpha enjoyment of the bleeding edge.

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[–] sudoku@programming.dev 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

when is it getting a new UI? hopefully the blender 2.8 moment will come soon for FreeCAD.

[–] ad_on_is@lemm.ee 9 points 3 days ago

There is already OpenTheme, which you can install via the AdonManager... looks waaaay better than the default

[–] PresidentCamacho@lemm.ee 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Since I work with AutoCAD daily I feel like Ive been hearing about FreeCAD for what feels like a decade or two. I cant believe it has been pre 1.0 all this time.

[–] ganymede@lemmy.ml 35 points 4 days ago (24 children)

freecad is actually getting fucking good for the price

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[–] WbrJr@lemmy.ml 12 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I just treid it a bit. And I have to say its quite incredible how good it got! Still a bit rough but I would say its 30% better than a year ago. But maybe ondsel just got me into the mindset of this program.

Its sad to see ondsel go because I doubt we would be here without them.

I hope the freecad team sees all the incredible feedback and the next few versions will be similar improvements for usabilty!

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[–] 7fb2adfb45bafcc01c80@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I use LibreCAD for architecture work and will take a look at FreeCAD.

Has anyone else tried both for architectural work? How did they compare for you?

[–] archomrade@midwest.social 8 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I work as an architectural designer but I've never really been allowed to use anything other than Revit for BIM workflows. Our consultants basically only use Revit or Autodesk products, so our hands are kind of tied for projects where we need to collaborate.

My boss uses Vectorworks for our small projects that don't need BIM, I might suggest we switch to Libre or FreeCAD so that we all have access without needed another VW license. Do you enjoy using LibreCAD?

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[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

1.0? So which one have I been using?

[–] andyortlieb@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)
[–] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

0.9.final.revised.25BAK.lastbest.final

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[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'm just surprised that it's so new

[–] Cube6392@beehaw.org 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

new is a different concept from first api stable release. it's been in development since 2002. 0.21 was the most recent release, and the software has been pretty much usable since 2010 at least. but this 1.0 release is a big deal because it basically means any features you currently know and like can be expected to be there for forever. it's more of a promise than a time-based release measure

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 2 points 3 days ago

Ah thanks for the explanation. That makes a lot of sense. Because using Freecad it certainly doesn't feel new. Looks late 90s or early 2000s

[–] BartyDeCanter@lemmy.sdf.org 30 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Ooh! Time to give it another look.

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[–] einlander@lemmy.world 27 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Rip Ondsel, made great changes before it died.

[–] ad_on_is@lemm.ee 21 points 5 days ago

most of them are merged in FC, and they will still continue contributing.

[–] oyo@lemm.ee 15 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I've tried it for a few hours, but basic stuff seems incredibly needlessly difficult. After thousands of hours in Solidworks it's just too painful.

[–] bluewing@lemm.ee 10 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Oddly, despite the 1,000's of hours of SW myself, I had little difficulty in picking up FreeCAD. Or Fusion or OnShape, (even taught OnShape to high school students), or SolidEdge. Once you understand the design process of CAD, it's not all that hard. I do have preferences in UI's and workflows, but that doesn't mean I can't use something different.

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[–] weststadtgesicht@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 4 days ago (4 children)

I loved the idea of FreeCAD but having no experience in CAD software at all I always struggled with fundamental basics that were not covered in the tutorials I watched. The huge amount of work benches (some of them 3rd party) did not help since most forum posts or tutorials were based on different or outdated versions.

Having a go with build123d now, trying to model stuff using python. At least the number of available API functions is manageable and everything else is just programming (which I already know).

[–] bluewing@lemm.ee 18 points 4 days ago (2 children)

If you want the best tutorials on FreeCAD, check out mangojelly on youtube. He has a current 1.0 beginner series that starts right from the very beginning. And he goes slow enough to easily follow along.

Ignore the huge number of workbenches. You can even go to the Settings and turn the ones you don't need off so you never see them again. You are only going to use 2 workbenches 90% of the time-- Part Design and Sketcher. And as you get more experience, you might add another couple of workbenches as you go. Most of the third party workbenches are specialty things. For example, I sometimes need to design and make gears or do small sheetmetal work. So I have the Gear and sheetmetal workbenchs installed. You probably would never need it.

Learning CAD, no matter what flavor, does require effort. It's as much about learning how to think as it is about learning how to do.

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[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I find the opposite. There's so many videos on FreeCAD its wonderful. And if you're stuck, ive posted to the forums and within a week someone literally took my file and made a video showing how to do what I couldn't figure out.

Such a fantastic community.

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[–] Macallan@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

How is it for Civil work?

[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 4 days ago (7 children)
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