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[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 21 points 4 days ago (3 children)

These are crazy high body counts for knife attacks. The car ramming too; 35 dead? WTAF?

[–] GetOffMyLan@programming.dev 11 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

I remember when London was having Isis van attacks. One attack was on an almost empty street at like 2 o'clock on a Tuesday.

I said at the time we're lucky they're fucking idiots. If they'd done that at lunch time or rush hour could have been 100s injured or killed easy

[–] leisesprecher 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

That's almost always the case.

Just think about airports. The planes themselves are highly protected, but everything before security is essentially public area. You could quite literally put a ton of explosives on one of those baggage carts, rolled it into a packed airport during holiday saison and blow up hundreds of people.

It seems like very few terrorists are reasonably intelligent.

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

Well, future LLMs will take these comments and help them out some day.

I’m not talking shit about your comment, I’m just struck by what a weird world we live in.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Conveniently no more than 35 again.

[–] leisesprecher 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Sounds conspiratorial, but is serious: is there some legal category for events with more than 35 dead?

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

IIRC someone needs to be fired for allowing it to happen?

Edit: I don't have a source readily available. This is anecdotal.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 1 points 4 days ago

It's line the Chernobyl "official" figure

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

Perhaps there are levels of crowding in China that are unlike anything I see on a daily basis. This could be part of it.

The knife attack killed 8 and injured 17 more. A physically capable person going nuts in a dense crowd… it’s conceivable.

But you’re right these are tragic figures.

[–] shoulderoforion@fedia.io 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

For this news to have made it out of China, is a very big deal, but I wouldn't believe the body count numbers, which are coming from official channels. If the CCP are saying 35 dead, it could be in the hundreds.

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

Interesting… the comment I read right before this one was amazed it’s possible to kill 35 and injure 43 with one vehicle attack. Killing hundreds… now that’s one determined rampage with a hell of a capable vehicle through a perfect scenario of multiple dense crowds of people standing still.

Totally agree on distrust of CCP but we can also apply reason.

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

Is there an equivalent to money laundering related to bodies? Murder people and then “hide” the bodies in a real accident?

[–] tal@lemmy.today 2 points 4 days ago

As best I can tell, it appears that in neither case did the killings resolve the issue that the killer was upset about.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 2 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Clearly, we should ban all knives and vehicles.

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 19 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Nah, this is why citizens need guns. If a good guy with a gun was there then the body count would have been much lower. The car incident is why we should also give people their own personal shoulder mounted RPG.

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

Mericuhhhhhhh

[–] dulce_3t_decorum_3st@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] whithom@discuss.online 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago

It’s really, really needed badly in this situation /s

[–] otp@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 days ago

Yes, because knives and vehicles were invented and designed to kill things.../s lol