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[–] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I'm just waiting for Bluesky to introduce ads.

[–] glowinfly@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 8 hours ago

Maybe in the future, but for now it looks like they already amnounced their next step to how they'll monetize their platform.

Bluesky has revealed how it plans to start making money without necessarily having to rely on ads. The platform will remain free to use for everyone, though it’s working on a premium subscription that will provide access to profile customization tools (remember when Myspace offered that for free?) and higher quality video uploads.

Source: https://www.engadget.com/social-media/blueskys-upcoming-premium-plan-wont-give-paid-users-special-treatment-193800247.html

[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 42 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

I’m more surprised to discover now that it launched without ads

[–] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 1 points 14 minutes ago

So did Facebook. It's the old drug dealer gambit: first hit is on the house, after that, you gotta pay.

[–] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 1 points 8 hours ago

The goal was to attract Twitter refugees. No ads helps sell the "greener pastures" the users were looking for.

Once those users are comfortable, Threads can do whatever it wants. They know how much it took to get Twitter users to leave Twitter.

People acting like Meta launched Threads out of the kindness of Zuck's heart are dumb as fuck. Threads has the same goal as Facebook: to make money selling your eyeballs to advertisers and your metadata to data brokers.

[–] ansiz@lemmy.world 12 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

More short sighted corporate greed. It's a great period to try and pull in Twitter users but instead let's add ads for a short term bump in profits.

[–] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 2 points 12 minutes ago

Why is it shortsighted? A service like this costs money to run, and if you won't pay for it, someone else has to.

[–] SuperSleuth@lemm.ee 4 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

They'd have to implement ads eventually anyway. Companies do have budgets, and the money to run Threads has to come from somewhere.

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 6 points 21 hours ago

Companies can and do make a loss to gain market share, they ae currently doing it with the metaverse and AI.

As twitter struggles under the spastic, they should be incentivising the move for users.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I wish more federated services had built in (optional) support for enabling ads so I didn't have to constantly worry about them shutting down. Especially peer tube.

[–] Fuzzy_Red_Panda@lemm.ee 13 points 21 hours ago

I kinda wish more federated services also had built in, optional support for directly paying the people hosting the service and infrastructure.

[–] Cordinel@lemmy.sdf.org 50 points 1 day ago

TIL Threads didn't have ads

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 129 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

"Since our priority is to build consumer value first and foremost, there are no ads or monetization features currently on Threads," a Meta spokesperson said in an emailed response.

The spokesperson then continued, "But only until early 2025. Then we'll be throwing consumer value in the trash and lighting it on fire. It will be very exciting."

[–] EvilBit@lemmy.world 69 points 1 day ago (2 children)

They’re not even hiding the enshittification strategy. They’re practically teaching you the principles up front.

“First we trap you, then we exploit you. Duh.”

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 2 points 23 hours ago

Well, this was the Facebook origin story, so anyone on Threads deserves it.

[–] HeadfullofSoup@kbin.earth 30 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Is it enshittification if it's shit from the start?

[–] EvilBit@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I guess you can always make it shittier?

I never understood the appeal of Threads anyway. Like, who leaves Xitter because it’s toxic garbage and goes to something owned by Meta, who practically invented this particular flavor of toxic garbage?

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[–] wrekone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago

Step 2 of the enshittification.

[–] thedeadwalking4242@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Consumer value as in number of valuable consumers we can grift later

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago

You deserve a raise. Someone get this deadwalker a corner office!

[–] SoupBrick@yiffit.net 76 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] jadelord@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Dear Pikachu, of course you are surprised. Learn how to expect and evade Team Rocket first.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 5 points 1 day ago

How could those two suspiciously familiar faces with light violet and wine colored hairs possibly be Jessie and James from Team Rocket???

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago
[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago

There aren't any ads on Mastodon. :)

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 41 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Still no reason to defederate, huh?

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 38 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Still no reason to defederate, huh?

No, it's not. Ads can't federate. Threads has no control over my Mastodon feed and Lemmy can't interact with Threads at all. Following Threads accounts from Mastodon is effectively an ad blocker.

[–] Lazycog@sopuli.xyz 30 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Might be a stupid question, but can't threads just post ads as "posts" via activityPub? On mastodon they would appear as toots?

Was just remembering how reddit introduced ads as basically promoted posts and recall facebook doing the same.

I sure fucking hope not.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Might be a stupid question, but can’t threads just post ads as “posts” via activityPub? On mastodon they would appear as toots?

Ads in Instagram are posts in the timeline from accounts you haven't followed. Ads don't show when you visit a profile and browse its images. So for example a post by Coca-Cola might appear in the main feed even though I never followed it but it has a little "sponsored" marker in a corner to indicate that it's there because Coke paid for it and the ad placement algorithm thinks that I might be interested in that product. As Threads is a spin-off from Instagram, ads there will surely follow the very same model. Sure, you might be able to follow Coca-Cola's Threads account from Mastodon and see the post promoting their drink that way but Threads just cannot place targeted ads on Mastodon because they don't control that feed.

[–] Lazycog@sopuli.xyz 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Thanks for the explanation. Makes sense for targeted ads for sure. Still a bit worried about hashtags being used for ads since I follow a lot of hashtags on mastodon and usually have a quite a nice "organic" feed compared to other social media.

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[–] net00@lemm.ee 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ads can't federate

Never underestimate facebooks capacity to enshittify. If they want to send ads as posts they will make a way. In principle the fediverse should oppose for-profit-line-go-up fuckheads, it's always the same bullshit.

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[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 1 day ago (12 children)

How do you know that Threads won't inject ads as posts?

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I'm changing my vote in the Agora from "yes defederate" to "Hell fucking yes defederate.'

[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

yeah that is why i chose not to donate to the instance is that my home any longer.

when they decided to keep federated with threads they decided that they didn't need my donations.

[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 1 day ago

You know that blocking threads account-wide on Mastodon 2 clicks and a confirmation?

[–] PrincessLeiasCat@sh.itjust.works 29 points 1 day ago (6 children)

The only surprising thing is that it took this long.

[–] DesolateMood@lemm.ee 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I haven't used threads, I just assumed it already had ads

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[–] Eczpurt@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Did threads take off recently or what's the story? I thought it was unsuccessful as xitter was already the preferred platform

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 23 hours ago

I was wondering that too. All I hear about is BlueSky and then suddenly this.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 2 points 1 day ago

I see official POTUS content on Mastodon because of Threads. I'd say that's pretty taken off

[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 day ago

I thought it was unsuccessful as xitter was already the preferred platform

It isn't anymore, ad I expect that to accelerate. The Guardian just announced today that they will no longer use it, for example (although individual journalists may still choose to do so)

Meta auto created threads accounts for all instagram users iirc so they kinda forced thwir way into the market by pre inflating their numbers.

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