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Electric Vehicles

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Electric Vehicles are a key part of our tomorrow and how we get there. If we can get all the fossil fuel vehicles off our roads, out of our seas and out of our skies, we'll have a much better environment. This community is where we discuss the various different vehicles and news stories regarding electric transportation.

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[–] _bcron_@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

That's good news for consumers. For EV makers? A mixed bag.

Capitalism would actually be pretty cool if it wasn't predicated on the notion that the quicker consumers chuck shit into landfills to make room for more shit the better off we'll all be.

Person A turns in their leased car, leases another car. Person B buys that off-lease car. Manufacturers basically got two sales out of this already. Only way to get 3 sales is to throw that off-lease car in a dumpster

[–] karl_chungus@lemm.ee 22 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Every used EV sold is one less used ICE vehicle on the road.

Cheaper used EVs are absolutely a good thing, and critical for widespread adoption.

[–] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 17 points 1 week ago

Of course it's a good thing. There's no way in hell I, or a lot of people, can ever afford to buy a whole new car of any kind. Used is the only option some of us have.

[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

A used EV sound like a great deal. For one they tend to depreciate a lot. But on top of that it looks like there is a lot less risk to buy something that wasn't properly maintained and/or beaten up, since EVs are much more idiot proof in those aspects.

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Depends on how much mileage the battery's had, as replacing it can double the range but also cost of the used car.

Edit: they're better than I thought! I expected 80% after 500 cycles, like phones, but they're closer to 90% after 3000 cycles!

[–] Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

More recent research on batteries in EVs is showing that the batteries will outlast the cars. Whether you realize it or not, you are spreading misinformation from the oil and gas industry.

https://cars.usnews.com/cars-trucks/advice/how-long-do-ev-batteries-last

https://www.caranddriver.com/features/a31875141/electric-car-battery-life/#ev-battery-life-expectancy

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

That's not quite what the articles say.

The truth is that today's EV batteries will inevitably need replacing in the future.

But yes, they show that batteries last longer than I expected. I imagine the light use by my European family will cover 2 decades if the battery has at least 300-km range.

[–] unmagical@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 week ago

Yes, 100% yes.