Europe Can’t Fund ‘Lost’ War in Ukraine Without US, Orban Says : worldnews

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca -1 points 53 minutes ago

Putin's dictator puppet can go and get fucked by an umbrella

[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 93 points 14 hours ago (27 children)

Once again, Orban says exactly what Putin wants him to say

At some point it becomes malicious to even print what he says

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 hours ago

Once again, a liberal is upset that a war might end and people might stop dying.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I’m sick & tired of this “vegetarians are just repeating Hitler talking points” fallacious reasoning.

Two people can come to the same conclusion without one parroting the other. In fact two people can come to the same conclusion for completely different reasons, or through completely different reasoning.

[–] hackerwacker@lemmy.ml -5 points 7 hours ago

Once again, a lemmy.world poster says exactly what the state department wants him to say.

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[–] makyo@lemmy.world 48 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

He’s wrong of course, Europe’s economy is many times stronger than Russia’s. The real question is if they can find the collective will to defend themselves.

[–] TheBlue22@lemmy.blahaj.zone 31 points 14 hours ago

In a sane world, orban, putin, Fico and Trump would have been rid of years ago

[–] justdoitlater@lemmy.world 18 points 13 hours ago

Orban is a traitor to democracy and mankind, fuck him.

[–] uebquauntbez@lemmy.world 5 points 11 hours ago

Orban only fears the EU gives less money to him.

[+] bobr@lemmy.libertarianfellowship.org -6 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (3 children)

For all the people here "supporting Ukraine" because you know, if Putin captures Ukraine then he will genocide Ukrainians and all that - this is exactly the same narration that Zelensky's regime is using to kidnap people and send them to the meatgrinder (kill them). A video from Kharkiv where TCC attempts to kidnap people from a bus scaring them with "Russian World" coming to Ukraine: https://files.catbox.moe/c72hez.MP4

People in the bus are accusing them of being "a traitor to the motherland" and telling them to go fuck themselves. But you know better what those people should do, right? They all should go and die for your wild fantasies of "but but but Putin will invade the whole world if we don't stop him (well, not you personally of course, why would you go and fight your wars, but you know, Ukrainians)".
After all, Zelensky said that Ukrainians are willing to fight, and he would never lie, right? All the videos, articles in your western medias about people NOT wanting to fight but still being exterminated by Zelensky's regime, etc are fakes.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 hours ago

Reporter: [REDACTED]
Reason: Pro russia bot

The Russiagate conspiracy theories are evergreeen.

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[–] bobr@lemmy.libertarianfellowship.org 4 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Eh, and as almost my every comment like this one, it got reported from LW user with reason "pro Russian bot" :/
If you think that caring about peoples' lives and posting evidence of human right abuses is somehow a sign of a person being Russian, or just something that is worth a condemnation.. What kind of mental gymnastics routine are you doing every morning to still consider yourself a good person?..

[–] mistahbenny@lemmy.ml -5 points 5 hours ago

no comment

[–] PanArab@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 hours ago

The only positive outcome from Harris losing.

[–] Hirom@beehaw.org 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Says the man always dragging his feet when time comes to support Ukraine's self-defense

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 2 points 48 minutes ago

What a weird way to say support for the western installed regime forcing Ukrainians to fight a proxy war against Russia.

[+] 1984@beehaw.org -4 points 9 hours ago

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[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world -2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Don't put a shithead's message in the headline. It spreads it. Headlines must be true, not false.

Look up George Lakoff videos, everybody.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 3 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

The Eurozone is structurally neoliberal, austerian, and anti-Keynesian, and Europe—which was already greatly de-industrialized—is right now further de-industrializing thanks to their self-imposed sanctions against Russia (and thanks to their NATO “partner” blowing up their gas pipeline), which has raised energy prices.

Orban is correct.

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