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[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world -3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (2 children)

Wow. Looks like MAGA isn't the only group that lives in its own fantasy world.

Unpopular candidate? Yeah, her rallies were ghost towns.

Abandon the working class? Sure, no expanded Earned Income tax credit, no forgivable $20k startup loans, no limiting childcare costs to 7% of family income...

You know, forget it, there's no point. Crawl under the covers and scream into your pillow about Palestine or whatever unforgivable issue made you let the country down by not supporting Harris. You can pretend Trump isn't your fault cuz it was the DNC. But it wasn't, IT. WAS. YOU. Fuck y'all.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

Abandon the working class?

unions declining to endorse a Democratic presidential candidate.

Unpopular candidate?

15m less Democrats voted.

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 1 points 40 minutes ago

Unpopular candidate? Yeah, her rallies were ghost towns.

Lmao

Crawl under the covers and scream into your pillow about Palestine or whatever unforgivable issue made you let the country down by not supporting Harris

Lmaoo

IT. WAS. YOU. Fuck y'all.

Lmaooo

The Trump campaign should pay you for all the covert advertising you do for them.

[–] FatCat@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

How did dems abandon the working class?

Biden has been the most pro working class president since FDR.

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Tell that to the rail workers

[–] FatCat@lemmy.world -2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

US rail companies grant paid sick days after public pressure in win for unions https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/may/01/railroad-workers-union-win-sick-leave?CMP=share_btn_url

When Joe Biden and Congress enacted legislation in December that blocked a threatened freight rail strike, many workers angrily faulted Biden for not ensuring that the legislation also guaranteed paid sick days. But since then, union officials says, members of the Biden administration, including the transportation secretary, Pete Buttigieg, and labor secretary, Marty Walsh, who stepped down on 11 March, lobbied the railroads, telling them it was wrong not to grant paid sick days.

“We’ve made a lot of progress,” said Greg Regan, president of the Transportation Trades Department of the AFL-CIO, the main US labor federation. “This is being done the right way. Each railroad is negotiating with each of its individual unions on this.”

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

So let's take a step back and take in what your argument is here.

You're implying that you can be pro worker by stripping them of their autonomy and power... then arranging for them to get whatever tiny scraps the owners decide is worth the PR

[–] FatCat@lemmy.world 0 points 1 hour ago

You must be some kind of black belt master in black and white thinking 🤡. Biden literally got workers their first ever paid sick days after decades of not being able to even call in sick, pressured companies to drop their draconian attendance policies, and you're here crying about him 'abandoning the working class'? Lmao get real

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 15 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Either you are able to vote on harm reduction alone, knowing that your pick isn't ideal...

Or you are so ideologically locked in that nothing but "your brand" is enough.

Harris sucks but the vote was to keep MORE, NEW people from being at risk.

[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 9 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Republicans always seem to win with shitty candidates because they understand this intrinsically. They do not care that DJT is an utter buffoon, they care that he will enact the shit they want, and now they're getting it because they refused to stay home. As the saying goes: Democrats want to fall in love, Republicans want to fall in line.

So Republicans backed their guy, just like they did the last two elections, and there was no line that could not be crossed that would convince even a fraction of Republicans to not vote. Meanwhile, virtue signaling lefties desperately tried to convince me for months that I shouldn't vote for Biden OR Harris because they were both equally culpable for a genocide that is happening halfway across the world, as if Trump would have been any better.

Yeah, we absolutely deserve to be punished for this. We let this happen. If Dems could actually get a solid trifecta in the government, we might have a shot at actually reversing some of the damage that has been accumulating since Reagan, but that requires people to set aside their purity tests and hold their noses at the ballot box. The real elitists are the Democratic base who feel personally slighted at the idea of compromise or harm reduction.

[–] Saleh 0 points 2 hours ago

There were 14 Presidents since FDR. And many of the Democratic ones had ample possibility to enact progressive laws and chose not to.

You keep claiming that people like Clinton, Obama, Clinton, Biden or Harris are "left", but they are center-right, in many aspects far right by European standards.

People don't vote "perfect" also not on the left. They vote "this is current issues, who addresses these issues?" Trump pretending to care about working class people helped him. Biden/Harris made a point of alienating everyone that is against genocide, which should be a nobrainer for progressive politics, and also peddling racist messages with bragging about their deportation numbers.

The idea that the center to far right Democrats would actually bring any leftist solution is laughable. They haven proven time and time again, that they are the party of maintaining the neoliberal and imperial status quo.

The solution is to offer a progressive solution against the reactionary solution, so people can rally around your progressive solution. Providing no solution and denying the problems is a surefire way to demotivate and disengage people. Someone who wants genocide, deportations and neoliberal economics can always vote the Republicans. And the Republicans can succesfully further the image of the Democrats being the billionaire cultural elite party, while the Reps are the billionaire "hard working" party, peddling the lie of the American dream. But it can be peddled to Joe and Jose in the milling plant.

[–] anonymous111@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

What are the odds Dems win the House?

[–] wreel@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 7 hours ago

It's highly unlikely.

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