64 percent of native americans voting trump was an eye opening stat for me. They are done w the status quo. 2020 it was 54 percent.
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It's totally crazy to me that Trump and crew are planning who to use the full power of the United States to murder and the Democratic Party is trying to figure out who to blame for it.
We need them to fight or what good are they?
The outside perspective has been wild. Everyone's blaming the dem party for not winning, as if trump didn't have 73 million plus fuckers voting for him.
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The Democrats handed the election to Trump
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People are blaming Trump for all the issues he has caused
Does make you wonder how different America's political system is to Russia's if a little more subtle about it
saw someone on Lemmy say late stage capitalism is exactly like the propaganda they taught you about communism where the rich and important people live in luxury and the working people are essentially slaves, only this time they have cars.
The US is also a one party state but, with typical American extravagance, they have two of them. -Julius Nyerere
Bernie has it right. The DNC represents the rich left leaning right.
Aren't most of DNC rich AF? I can only see them benefiting from Trump.
Now they can just sit and do fuck all, because they lost everything. I'd say that makes their dayjob easier.
They're rich enough to think the economy is doing great
Oddly enough, Biden, Harris, and especially Walz are among the least rich politicians in DC. They are still way better off than middle class Americans though.
Off topic, by why in god do people refer to the democrats as the DNC as if it's the acronym for the democratic party?
It's a bit like someone calling every piece in chess a "pawn". It's not right technically, and it sounds dumb.
Democratic National Committee. It's a good shorthand for the establishment fucks who run everything.
Also, I recently learned that the Democratic party was founded before the Grand Old Party. That annoys me more.
They still address Republicans as their friends and collages. Once that work shift is over, they don't care. They will run someone like Pete and have the same issues next election.
Then they can call us homophobic when people don't vote for him
They will run whoever wins in the primaries, which means that voting in the primaries is where you have much more power. Start early on supporting candidates who you think can win and help them win the primaries.
This works much better in down-ballot races than at the POTUS-level, but even there if you get a big enough movement going it can work. That's how Trump got the R nomination in 2016 after all--the R establishment hated him and didn't want him to win but he got the votes.
On the DNC side, after outcry about what happened with Bernie in 2016, they changed the rules to limit the power of the superdelegates to rig things like they did it 2016, by preventing them from voting on the first ballot and other rules on what they can do. Whether those reforms are enough has not yet been tested.
One reason it hasn't been tested is that we didn't hold primaries this year.
Sure, it's not (very) illegal to offer the rest of the candidates cabinet positions to drop out, so that you can 1v1 the progressive and prevent the him from winning the way Trump did. But "we're a private entity and can pick the nominee however we want" will not exactly endear you to your base, or give them very much respect for the primary process.
I assume you mean you have more power if you live in Iowa, New Hampshire or South Carolina. If your state votes after "super Tuesday" things will be pretty decided before you have a chance to weigh in.
As a leftist, I feel pretty unrepresented by the Democrats. "Vote in the primaries then support whoever is the nominee" would feel a lot more palatable if I wasn't so sure the DNC will do everything they can to prevent a progressive from getting nominated.
The Democratic primaries were held as always. Biden won, as the sitting president (almost?) always does because there are no serious challengers. Maybe there should have been a stronger effort to challenge him but it would have probably accomplished nothing but disruption. After he dropped out there wasn't time to hold new primaries.
But yeah, that's why I said people have a lot more power further down the ballot, the more local the closer it is to the people and the more democratic. On a national level your voice is one among millions and as you say, the earlier primary states have the most power. and unfortunately yes, that voting strategy usually takes many election cycles of concerted effort by a movement to start working. On the R side, you could say it started back in the 80's with the "moral majority" movement. One thing they did that was really effective was focusing their efforts on the State level and getting control of state legislatures.
A couple of things that make this harder for D's is that it is a big tent party with diverse positions that can make it like herding cats, whereas with R's their positions have been much more consistent (until the first trump candidacy and presidency, and now they're consistent again, all having fallen into line under him). The other thing is that R's and conservatives are spread out everywhere in the rural areas, while D's and liberals are concentrated in the cities as a minority of the population in the many red states and an oversized majority in the few blue states. That also works to the R's advantage in controlling more state legislatures. It's a tough situation.
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