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[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Let’s just kick America out if need be.

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[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Can NATO still mean something if the US leaves? I think so, but there is much soul searching to be done.

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[–] RangerJosie@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It isn't credible now. It likely won't exist at all in 4 years. Unless it cedes even more decision making authority to the US and becomes even more of a puppet.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The main point I was making is that Trump is almost certainly going to pull the US out of NATO altogether.

[–] RangerJosie@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If not attempt to destroy it outright in an attempt to extort it.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Only if he gets attention or money for doing so. Those are his two gods, and he serves no others.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

He serves Putin because Putin gives him attention and money. It's the same gods.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Putin also kinda obviously has some serious dirt on him

[–] Rampsquatch@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

What dirt could he possibly have that the MAGA crowd gives two shits about?

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[–] tormeh@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Doesn't all authority already lie with the USA? If we're going to be real, I mean. I'm sure France thinks otherwise but let's be real: NATO was always the "Uncle Sam will protect Europe from Russia"-treaty.

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4 years? Try 6 months from now.

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