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[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Can NATO still mean something if the US leaves? I think so, but there is much soul searching to be done.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Sorta, but not really tbh. The US was always intrinsically backstopping the security side of things. Without us in it - and I mean this very seriously - it’s not really a credible threat to Russia or anyone else anymore.

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

NATO article 5 will still have use in self defence, but obviously it will be way less impressive

The article is only powerful if it's enforced.

I suspect that Putin's direct report won't really sign on to any sort of defense of European countries.