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Summary

Despite polling indicating a competitive race, Trump and his allies continue to falsely claim that the only way he can lose is through widespread voter fraud. This claim is based on his false belief that he did not lose the 2020 election and his 2024 campaign’s foundation.

However, several factors, including Trump’s feuds with Republicans, the RNC’s abandonment of efforts to make inroads with nonwhite voters, and the impact of the overturning of Roe v. Wade, could lead to a Trump loss, which he has primed his supporters to be ready for without cause.

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[–] DogPeePoo@lemm.ee 60 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Trump has NEVER won the popular vote, and he never will.

His handlers eked out a ‘cheaters win’ in 2016 through the fuckery of gerrymandering and the shit stained, outdated, and manipulated electoral college system.

GET OFF YOUR BUTT TODAY AND GO VOTE. GIVE TRUMP HIS THIRD POPULAR VOTE LOSS.

[–] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Don't forget the last-minute "investigation" of Hillary Clinton by the FBI and Comey

[–] FunderPants@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 weeks ago

Meanwhile, Trump is a convicted felon.

[–] mbtrhcs 8 points 2 weeks ago
[–] WatDabney@fedia.io 23 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

While there are strategic advantages to that - if he wins, it'll feel more like a mandate that will justify whatever horrifying shit his administration intends to do and if he loses, it's an instant objection - I tend to think that the real foundation of this whole attitude is just Trump's delusional narcissism.

Trump's reality isn't rooted in actual objective reality. It's based on himself and himself alone - if he believes it, then, to him, it is and can only be true, and he believes whatever serves to assuage the squalling demands of his titanic ego and his childish greed and need for attention.

I have no doubt that in the fantasy universe in which he actually lives, he really can't possibly lose. It's just in the real universe - the one the rest of us live in but he does not - that he can (and hopefully will) lose.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 13 points 2 weeks ago

While there are strategic advantages to that

He's relying on The Base to take action. He's using propaganda to convince Republican voters to not accept a loss and to allow Republicans to take whatever measures (actually steal the election) to ensure that "justice" is served and a "correct" counting of votes can happen. This is entirely meant to give cover to the lie that the Democrats cheated and so allows them to be more extreme in a coup attempt.

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Absolutely not, he has privately told people he knows he lost the 2020 election. He routinely lies to get what he wants.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 weeks ago

If you never want to lose and you never want to admit defeat .... why participate in the election at all?

If you're not going to accept the other side winning and you'll only accept your own win .... then why did you enter the election? Why are your supporters even taking part? According to you guys you've already won without even voting or counting any votes, which means you don't believe in the process.

Which begs the question, if you support Turnip, why vote at all?