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[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

According to a 230 year old linear function.

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 0 points 3 months ago

plenty of functions are centuries old, including the one that tells us the shortest distance between two points is a straight line; you’ll need to provide more information if you’re gonna convince anyone of anything 💁‍♀️

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Now do north america. I bet the number is much higher

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

~~Already done, it’s about the same.~~

~~Obesity affects ∼20% of U.S. youth, with severe obesity (body mass index [BMI] ≥120th of the 95th percentile and/or ≥35 kg/m2) at record high prevalence.~~

Oops this source only counted obesity and not overweight as the original post does. It’s actually ~33%; you were correct.

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 0 points 3 months ago

Heads up for other confused readers, that subheading…

“According to new research, skipping breakfast or excessive screen time are risk factors for developing obesity…”

Is egregiously cut out of context, I am guessing by the publishing site. In context, that quote is meant to hilight the wide variety of risk factors for obesity, not to suggest that those are the most common or significant.

I wish there was a way to reach out to correct this error but I couldn’t find one.

[–] T156@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Anyone know how skipping breakfast contributes? It seems like it would do the opposite.

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 0 points 3 months ago

you may end up eating more later in the day.

research

[–] CaptainSpaceman@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Totally nothing to do with rising sugar content in all foods globally and lack of proper nutritional foods

[–] RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Exactly. And somehow the top of the article says

According to new research, skipping breakfast or excessive screen time are risk factors for developing obesity

Oh yah, it's definitely because kids skip breakfast (and the 22g of sugar per teaspoon) and screens.

[–] De_Narm@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I can get behind the logic of more screen time probably meaning less physical activity. But someone needs to explain to me how eating less would ever lead to weight gain. Especially when your typical breakfast junk is just as unhealthy as snacking could ever be.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

your body adjusts to fasting by increasing hunger hormones and sensitivity to them. This can lead to overconsuming food when its available.

additionally roads and traffic have also reduced effective social and play areas even as vehicles become more dangerous to pedestrians.

Its possible even that the evolutionary adaptation to cars is that low energy kids have less risk of injury/death while more high energy kids get hit by cars, possibly selecting for less active kids generation to generation (notably it may also be selecting for taller heights)

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

i absolutely hate that this correct answer gets any downvotes.

so much anti-intellectualism on the internet, so much surface level “BuT CaLoRiEs iN CalOriEs OuT” combined with outright denial and doubt of empirical evidence.

humans are a mess. yes, sometimes skipping morning meals can have an effect on the rest of your day and you eat more later. why are we so quick to doubt that?

[–] LwL@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Yea i can absolutely see that. Though it's also understandable to doubt it because personally it just doesn't apply - which I think is largely because I don't changr my portion sizes, and I'm probably not the only one. I make food and eat all of it, and I usually eat 2 meals a day + sometimes breakfast. I've found that delaying food intake for as long as possible leads to me eating less overall and losing weight.

In my case, eating breakfast or not is more of a result of how much I ate the previous day.

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Here you encounter the difference between personal anecdote and statistical averages in risk factors :)

Risk factors don’t mean you, personally are doing something wrong, risk factors just help identify patterns that inform action in health care where it is needed

[–] LwL@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yeah I know, I just meant to state I can see where the initial doubt comes from. I already saw the study further up and the reasoning makes sense.

Though I think with dieting in particular general trends are very hard to apply to individuals (most obvious offender being BMI).

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 0 points 3 months ago

General trends should only be applied by trained professionals, such as physicians or dietitians, who can do so with the necessary care and attention. Unless you are a doctor, you’re right that it’s hard! In fact you shouldn’t do it at all.

It is important for people to understand this concept, because it seems to be commonly overlooked. The average person should not create a diet or fitness plan based solely on data like what is discussed in this article. Rather, it is far more healthy to defer to professionals and their recommendations in the form of interpretation of that data for guidance rather than attempting to interpret this information on your own.

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 0 points 3 months ago

also see this comment about that out of context quote:

https://lemmy.cafe/comment/6259728

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Edit: My apologies, it’s in the subtitle line cut out of context like this. I think this is the egregious fault of the publisher more than the author, probably some SEO BS, because again this was obviously not the intent of that sentence.

My browser’s reader mode cut out that subtitle line, hence my original comment:

Bad reading of the author’s intent and you ignore the immediately preceding sentence which provides context for your cherry picked quote:

The researchers identified great heterogeneity in the prevalence between countries and also diverse risk factors, from dietary to behavioral.

The intent of that paragraph is to highlight the diversity of risk factors, not to give the most prevalent ones.

When you ask a text to do something it didn’t ever even pretend to want to do, of course you are going to come away disappointed. ~~Media literacy.~~ < Publisher accountability.

[–] tomalley8342@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Bad reading of the author’s intent and you ignore the immediately preceding sentence which provides context for your cherry picked quote

It is the subtitle in its entirety, as the author of the article intended. That sentence didn't grow legs and and walk all the way up to the top of the article by itself.

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 0 points 3 months ago

hot damn my apologies my reader view cut out the subtitle. somehow i doubt that was the author’s intent though. i would blame the publisher for this because that’s a really poor manipulation of the text.