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E.g. Tartarus instead of Tartaros, Daedalus instead of Daidalos, Cerberus instead of Kerberos, Cassandra instead of Kassandra... There are a lot of these names that are more widely used in their Romanized forms. Yet if we talk about mythological names instead the Greek names are more widely used (althrough this was different over 200 years ago)

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[–] Sundial@lemm.ee 64 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Because the Roman's are the ones who conquered Europe so their standards and customs got passed along.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 29 points 3 days ago (2 children)

There's a video of an Indian comic explaining why Shakespeare is considered the greatest writer ever.

One part of it is the English conquering 75% of the planet and putting their teachers in every classroom.

[–] radix@lemmy.world 30 points 3 days ago

You have not experienced Shakespeare until you have read him in the original Klingon.

[–] crank0271@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If you have that available to post it sounds like an interesting watch.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Western Europe.

Central Europe conquered Rome instead 💪

[–] Hegar@fedia.io 21 points 3 days ago

As medieval and renaissance scholars regained interest in the pagan past, they wrote about it in latin. That's why we still largely use the latinized names.

These scholars used latin partly because it was the lingua franca of their elite audience, but also that way the only people who could read it would have had a proper church education. And thus less likely to be lead from the path of righteousness by these pagans and all their wicked thinkin'.

This practice of using latin for religiously risque material continues well into the modern period, where the sexy parts of native american myths were marked by an abrupt shift into latin. I believe the first scientific account of penguin necrophilia was written in latin as well.

[–] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

The classical Romanization was more accurate in its time—the issue is that the common pronunciation of classical Latin changed after the classical era (for instance, the “c” became soft in many contexts, instead of always being pronounced as “k” as it was in classical Latin).

If you use the original classical pronunciation for Latin, you’ll also pronounce the classical romanized Greek names correctly—and if you spell them the classical way you’ll recognize them more easily in Latin sources. The modernized romanization is most useful if you’re only interested in Greece and not in the classical world as an integrated whole.

[–] JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Presumably for the same reason we say Rome and Florence instead of Roma and Firenze. Just as England has been heavily influenced by French culture, all of Europe has seen things through the prism of the Roman Empire.

[–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 3 days ago (2 children)

What language is "Fiorenza"? The city you mean is called Firenze in Italian.

[–] thefactremains@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

“Fiorenza” is an archaic or poetic form of the name in Italian. This version was commonly used in older Italian literature and poetry, including works by Dante Alighieri.

[–] JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

Thank you for saving my credibility. Not that I actually knew that.

[–] JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago
[–] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 3 points 3 days ago

One reason might be that the Greek versions were made more for the Greek alphabet.

[–] ryujin470@fedia.io 2 points 3 days ago

Update: I confused name variants with names in the final part🤦