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Doesn't matter. Don't let them make you complacent. Go vote!
Even if you think he'll lose, the House (unless the Dems take it) will very likely try to block certification, force a per-state count instead of a per-delegate count, and punt it it to Supreme Court.
So give as little leeway as possible. The more he loses by the harder his next little coup attempt will be
When the votes are counted, the presiding officer will be VP Kamala Harris, not the House Speaker.
And the only way to block a state's certification is if both the House and Senate agree. Otherwise they have to accept the results certified by the governor.
One body can reject forever, nothing forces them to accept.
That's not how it works.
When the EV's for a state are counted, the House and Senate have one opportunity to object.
If there is an objection, a vote is called. A majority in both houses is necessary to reject those EVs.
If there is not a majority in both houses then the motion fails, the EV's are accepted, and the VP moves on to the next state.
No each body must vote to sustain an objection, if one doesn't then the process is deadlocked.
That isn't what your link says at all, infact it talks at length about the uncertainty of the whole process, which favors it being attacked.
I literally quoted the linked article
The house and the president will almost certainly swing the same way. This is nothing to worry about.
Midterms tend to favor the opposing party
The point is that if Harris wins, then Hakeem Jeffries will likely be House Speaker on January 6
Hey, I won’t say no to that
If only enthusiasm countered the unjustness of voter suppression and the electoral college.
Exactly. I have no doubt Harris will win the popular vote. Unfortunately that's not necessarily good enough to win. And even if she wins, Trump supporters are absolutely not interested in a civilized society.
It's becoming more of a worry in my mind that within my remaining lifetime I will see an uncivilized society in America. So far the majority of people seem to at least scoff at the Jan. 6 actions, and no true movement of insurrection (meaning they are willing to wage war and not back down when confronted with armed resistance, not that Jan. 6 wasn't treason) has seized the country.
It’s becoming more of a worry in my mind that within my remaining lifetime I will see an uncivilized society in America.
bro. they mowed down a bunch of 7-year olds at school back in 2012 or whenever the fuck it was (forgive me, these shootings are so common it's hard to remember when sandy hook happened).
I remember Sandy Hook. I was working in a primary school at the time and helped harden in the pointless ways we actually could. And, like, I get that, but it isn't the whole society. We haven't gotten to the point where rule of law actually disintegrates. As bad as that is, I fear for true war from one side against the other(s), where we will see everyone pull out weapons and hold them to the heads of the other side in order to get their way, blast away at those they see as other... not just use laws to slowly strangle the ideas of self-autonomy and democracy.
The Democrats have to win by enough of a margin that it can’t be taken away from them by a rush of spurious lawsuits aided by partisan judges. If they’ve won a state but invalidating a few batches of votes would undo that, they haven’t actually won it.
Republicans dont even need to win states they lost just to have their results rejected by Congress and the election having no one get to 270. In that case the house votes by state which Republicans win easily.
The new Congress votes tho...we don't know the makeup of it yet.
I just looked at the current polls and it is close. Like, I cannot believe that this many people have watched all of this shit and are still voting for him.
Please go out and vote.
This was the line for early voting in a conversation county. Fuck polls they only call landlines and only fucking boomers have those.
Bet the polls would not be close if they spoke to younger people. No matter vote like it could potentially be your last. Because if Trump wins or cheats and steals this election it will be.
Please believe them when he says he will be a fucking dictator.
Even if they called younger people doubt itd do too much. My friends and myself dont answer unknown numbers.
The 18-29 crowd makes up less than 10% of current early/voting figures. Doesn't matter too much how Trump or Kamala is polling with the younger generation, because just like every election in the past, the younger generation doesn't show up to vote.
Vote, bitches 🤘
The most enthusiastic voter still only gets one vote.
Less enthusiastic voters don't cast votes.
if harris wins this, i want to see her put her fucking heel on the throats of all the fascist traitor swine.
I'm fine with a stern look, a firm handshake, and a full body kick off a 10th story balcony.
LETS FUCKING GOOOOOO!!! Shit yes.
In my household we have already cast 3 votes for sanity. We can only hope that others are quietly doing the same.
I literally just ignored a poll called (phone even IDd them as Survey) so ... Let's try not to read too much into polls. Instead, vote.
The polling/ exit results is so confused in this past week.
None of the polls are based on reality anymore. They are all being gamed.
No I don't believe that. Its counter-productive to engage in conspiratorial thinking.
Polls haven't been accurate in a long time now. Election betting sites have said they are being manipulated. DJT stock price is being used as a way of showing "market acceptance of trump". It's all being gamed. It's not conspiratorial at all.
https://www.mediaite.com/news/you-are-lying-nate-silver-accuses-pollsters-of-putting-their-fcking-finger-on-the-scale/
https://fortune.com/crypto/2024/10/30/polymarket-trump-election-crypto-wash-trading-researchers/
It’s not conspiratorial at all.
No, what you are engaging in is anti-scientific, conspiratorial thinking. Gallup isn't being gamed. Emerson isn't being gamed. Times-Sienna isn't being gamed.
And there is some funny business out there, but polling is still polling. There are real criticisms you can make here around methodology, or how when a metric becomes a target it ceases to be a metric, and maybe you could dig into issues like that. But to just be dismissive like this is, well, its anti-intellectual and anti-factual.