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[–] vext01@lemmy.sdf.org 40 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Thunderbird for Android 8.0

When can I get it for android 14? End dad joke.

[–] RvTV95XBeo@sh.itjust.works 18 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I get the joke, but also I was shocked to see in the article:

Thunderbird for Android runs on mobile devices running Android 5 and above.

Who out there is still running Lollipop?! That came out over a decade ago. You can't even get Thunderbird through the Play Store because Google Play Services dropped support for 5.1 back in July. I have so many questions.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I mean Thunderbird on windows always looked like it could work on windows 95 so I'm not surprised

[–] gramgan@lemmy.ml 23 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

🥳

Been looking forward to this for a long time—K-9 Mail is an excellent mail client, but this is one step closer to Desktop/Mobile sync.

[–] makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 weeks ago

Doesn't IMAP sync anyway?

Been using Thunderbird and K9 for years. All is the same on both.

[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

After waiting years for this I ended up using FairEmail, which is absolutely amazing. I'd have a hard time switching to something else at this point.

[–] solrize@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

I've been fairly happy with K9 but if they are about to Mozillify it, I will check out FairEmail.

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[–] clmbmb@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Only that FairEmail looks like an ancient elephant... I tried to use it, but found it pretty complex.

[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 weeks ago

The devs description states that it's intentionally minimalistic visually and focuses on advanced features. FairEmail is way overkill for someone with a single gmail account for example. At the time that I found it, FairEmail was the only client that met all of my needs. Like managing multiple accounts, each with multiple folders and none of that unified nonsense. It's also available on F-Droid and GitHub.

[–] GravitySpoiled@lemmy.ml 15 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

Unfortubately I am locked in to protonmail :/ otherwise I'd love to use it, looks great

[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 18 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

There is apparently a way to set up a bridge that will allow you to access it, but that sounds like an awful lot of work. It also requires connecting to a PC running the software, and I would imagine it affects the security of the messaging (which may be the reason to choose proton mail in the first place).

https://proton.me/support/protonmail-bridge-clients-windows-thunderbird

[–] finestnothing@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm in the same boat - with them for the encrypted email, but it does hold me back from using third party apps on mobile. Hopefully they get an easier way to use third party apps on mobile. Will probably just end up being a mobile bridge app or something

[–] Niquarl@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They have an app though, do you not like it?

[–] finestnothing@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It's pretty but feature-deficient and not very pleasant to use compared to third party email apps imo

[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 weeks ago

This remains my #1 complaint every time they send me a "how are we doing" survey

I check, then reply:

Your email app still doesn't support basic functionality like creating and editing filters, something I had to code for a phone app back in high school

Like, holy shit, the feature exists on desktop why the fuck can't I have it in the app rreeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[–] GravitySpoiled@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Thx! That's for desktop. The bridge is alright. There's no major drawback to it afaik. But this is news about android. Thunderbird bought k9mail

[–] Takumidesh@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The bridge just creates imap/smtp servers, so you should be able to add it to thunderbird on Android.

[–] GravitySpoiled@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

That's very good to know, thx! But that means I have to run the bridge on my server, open the ports there etc. , right?

[–] mac@lemm.ee 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Edit: just tried this and it didn't work. Proton bridge only listens on 127.0.0.1 and doesn't accept incoming connections due to security concerns.

If I were in your position, which I am and will probably end up doing this, is vpn into your home network and just connect to the local IP of your bridge server.

WG tunnel on F droid allows for you to auto connect to your wireguard server when you leave your home net, and auto disconnects when you get back on your home net.

Personally, I'm unsure if proton bridge listens for external request or if it only accepts requests from localhost? If that's the case it may be an issue.

[–] Imnebuddy@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 weeks ago

https://github.com/exander77/proton-bridge-android

There is a way to do it locally on an Android device using Termux.

[–] Xeroxchasechase@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Why locked? Proton mail does'nt have a protocol?

[–] exu@feditown.com 9 points 3 weeks ago

No IMAP/SMTP support with ProtonMail. You have to run their bridge application locally to get that functionality.
IMAP/SMTP does make their encryption at rest impossible, AFAIK similar providers like tuta don't have those either.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 weeks ago

wait a hot second, do protonmail not support IMAP??

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[–] toastal@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

One important thing K-9 does that this doesn’t: realese on F-Droid.

What is this? At least provide a repository like DivestOS… while you are at it, get the code for the free software off of proprietary Microsoft GitHub.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 15 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

The post says they're working on releasing to F-Droid.

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[–] watson387@sopuli.xyz 9 points 3 weeks ago

Just downloaded the apk. Thanks for the heads-up!

[–] Mwa@lemm.ee 8 points 3 weeks ago

Android 8.0 💀💀💀

[–] 0485919158191@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

Great news!

[–] buzz86us@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Is this worth it or is it just K9 with a different name? Like does it really add anything

[–] Neon@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

It looks better imo

Also you will have to check whether k9 will still receive updates

[–] Avero 1 points 3 weeks ago

From what I've seen in the changelog its basically the same, beside the branding and donation links/IAP

[–] GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

As I already said on Mastodon, I'm surprised how good the app looks. Couldn't expect that from Thunderbird.

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 22 points 3 weeks ago

It's actually K9 mail with a new name. They went over to the Mozilla foundation a year or two ago.

[–] KarnaSubarna@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Thunderbird 128 ESR has a really nice/modern look. Besides, if you don't like the default look, you have plenty of themes to use with.

[–] VintageGenious@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Does it support schools microsoft exchange ?

[–] LunarLoony@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 3 weeks ago

Seems unlikely - I believe Office 365 disables third-party email clients by default these days

[–] doc@fedia.io 1 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Exchange ActiveSync is a licensed protocol. If any FOSS app handles it for free I'd love to know.

[–] iturnedintoanewt@lemm.ee 3 points 3 weeks ago

Evolution in Linux does.

[–] VintageGenious@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

What's the use of active sync ?

[–] doc@fedia.io 1 points 3 weeks ago

ActiveSync is to Exchange as IMAP/POP3 is to other email providers.

So if you want your email client to speak with an Exchange server you're using ActiveSync, not other protocols used by other types of servers.

[–] dRLY@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Anyone know if they plan to add other parts of the desktop version to the Android version? Would be nice to see at least the calendar. The RSS stuff would be cool too.

[–] Niquarl@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 weeks ago

I think I remember reading some comments in a previous blogpost that it wasn't really in the near-future roadmap at least. I think there are a couple good android calendar apps without needing Thunderbird to port that. RSS sync would be great though, I'd love that too.

[–] Xeroxchasechase@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I wonder how much the success of Thunderbird affect Firefox

[–] KarnaSubarna@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 weeks ago

Note that -

Operated by MZLA Technologies Corporation, a subsidiary of the Mozilla Foundation, Thunderbird is an independent, community-driven project that is managed and overseen by the Thunderbird Council, which is elected by the Thunderbird community.

source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Thunderbird

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