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[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 192 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Yes Mel Gibson is still bonkers.

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 64 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Until producers stop giving him money and actors refuse to work with him he'll continue spreading hate, the guy has been an obvious bigot and moron his entire life

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 32 points 3 weeks ago (12 children)

“I separate people and their art” people are the fuckin’ worst and huge part of the problem, too, since they don’t do a damn thing to incentivise those losers to stop what they’re doing, either.

When I learned that “Sweet Home Alabama” was in bitter response to Neil Young’s “Southern Man” I just stopped listening to it. There is so much music in the world, I’ve been fine without Lynyrd Skynyrd. I also don’t think I’ve ever seen a Mel Gibson movie and I seem to be ok.

[–] NielsBohron@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (5 children)

This might be an unpopular opinion, but I would say that "Sweet Home Alabama" is very different. It was not written bitterly and it was written by a bunch of Neil Young fans (and Neil himself loved the song). The point of "Sweet Home Alabama" was to show that there were people who grew up in the South who weren't racist, who acknowledged and decried the racist history of the South, but who also felt resentment at being lumped in with the racists, past and present. Being both proud of being from the South and ashamed of being from the South at the same time even has its own term, coined AFAIK by the band The Drive-By Truckers: "the duality of the Southern Thing."

There are plenty of artists and musicians that should just be written off, but I don't think Skynyrd is among them. They were actually relatively progressive for their background and were trying to paint a fairly sophisticated and balanced story; it's not their fault that their fanbase evolved into a bunch of racist assholes who preempted the song for their own causes, especially since the heart and soul of the band died in a plane crash in 1977. But that's just my two cents as a huge music fan who grew up listening to Skynyrd in the 90's.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Maybe Lynyrd Skynyrd shouldn't have constantly used the Confederate Battle Flag and other Confederate imagery if they didn't want to be lumped in with the racists.

Just a thought.

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[–] Soup@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They heard “Southern Man” and went so hard “not all southerners” that they even included the line directly telling Neil to fuck off. One of their black back-up singers went on to cover “Southern Man” as a little bit of a personal win for her. Lynyrd Skynyrd could have done a million things that weren’t that in response but instead they wrote that little piece of whiny-baby bullshit. They did it all on their own, without their base needing to misinterpret anything. Fuck ‘em, I got loads of fantastic music to listen to without giving that one any of my time.

People have literally died for their rights and we’re so damned soft we can’t even just consume different yet equally good, or better, media and that’s fuckin’ weak. Sometimes we aren’t given much choice but it’s not like we’re hurting for high-quality music, TV, and literature. It’s so fucking easy.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 3 weeks ago

They also can't really claim they weren't the same, when they constantly used Confederate imagery to sell shit.

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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago (12 children)

Eh, Mad Max, Road Warrior, and Beyond Thunderdome are classics. Lethal Weapon was good.

He was even decent in the John Wick flashback "The Continental".

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[–] Milk_Sheikh@lemm.ee 144 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You mean the same guy who said he hopes his (then) partner gets “raped by a pack of n****rs” isn’t voting for Kamala? I’m shocked I tell you.

He’s been unhinged for years, we should have cancelled him decades ago and let Mel succumb to his own alcoholism.

[–] DrSteveBrule@mander.xyz 17 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)
[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 weeks ago
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[–] ThePantser@lemmy.world 68 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

So many out of work actors raging their boy is getting destroyed by a woman.

[–] sndmn@lemmy.ca 35 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

So many immigrants complaining about immigration too.

[–] Wrench@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

TBF, Australia has a really big problem with racism. Against immigrants in particular.

As an American that traveled there 2 years ago on vacation, it was typical for them to ice break with "so how about them immigrants" after they found out we were American (and assumed all Americans are Texans I guess, by the stereotype they were expecting)

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[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 weeks ago

You mean Elon? Yeah, he's always been a noisy little bitch about things...

[–] d00phy@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

Not defending the guy, but he has not at all been out of work. He just hasn’t been in movie theaters nationwide. He’s been in plenty of stuff recently. John Oliver even mentioned how crazy it’s been that he’s been so busy despite all the racist and antisemitic rants he’s had.

[–] doggle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 60 points 3 weeks ago

Old racist votes for old racist.

More at 9.

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 51 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Mel should do the right maga thing. As a immigrant he should self deport himself.

[–] Evil_incarnate@lemm.ee 19 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

We don't want him back now. You've ruined him.

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago

Don't blame us for your road warrior.

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[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 40 points 3 weeks ago

This guy is a racist piece of shit. Always has been.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 39 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Mel Gibson? An insane rant? No, couldn’t be. I’m sure it must have not been bigoted in any way.

[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

Uhhhhh... well this is embarrassing. He didn't do an ''insane'' rant. He did a BONKERS rant. Uncle Baby Billy can clear up the difference if you need more info.

[–] DogPeePoo@lemm.ee 36 points 3 weeks ago

The Passion of the Anti-Christ

[–] elliot_crane@lemmy.world 35 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

(plays William Wallace)

(endorses authoritarian candidate)

At the very least the man is skilled at pretending to be someone he’s not. That’s about all he’s got going for him.

[–] Wogi@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Braveheart strokes the same freedom boner that The Patriot does.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I don't care, man, braveheart was fucking dope. plus that's very reductive, it's a very personal story as well in many ways. there's friendship and love and ~~:.|:;~~ and betrayal and revenge. it really hits hard on an emotional level in so many scenes. two or three that made me cry, a number of fuck you moments and a bunch of fuck yeah moments. it has so many perfect setup and payoff arcs that more recent insanely popular media severely lacks, like breaking bad or Harry Potter.

Gibson is an absolute piece of shit but it's a shame that he's actually talented, unlike a crushing majority of these hogs.

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[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

The funny bit is that everyone already knew he was a far right extremist politically and religiously, it's just HOW he expresses himself that's blowing up in his face.

[–] son_named_bort@lemmy.world 33 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Did he blame the Jews again?

[–] Cheems@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

No, but I'm shocked he didn't, he'd probably get a standing ovation from the right and be among the elite right aside the my pillow guy and Elon.

[–] Archer@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

I think that’s just implicit now

[–] VaalaVasaVarde@sopuli.xyz 31 points 3 weeks ago

I tried finding a gif of Mel in a straight jacket from Lethal Weapon, but I'll settle for this one:

mel

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 28 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

time to take another long hiatus from work, mel.

[–] Pronell@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Nonsense, he will get steady work alongside Kevin Sorbo!

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[–] Draegur@lemm.ee 27 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The worst Mel. Mel Brooks infinitely superior.

[–] Confused_Emus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Why is anyone still listening to this man enough for this to make it to a headline?

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

A high enough percentage of people without ad-block were likely enough to click.

[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago

Well now I definitely don't feel bad about torrenting Braveheart

[–] Jagothaciv@kbin.earth 13 points 3 weeks ago

Dude is just another relative nobody can invite over for Easter.

[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 9 points 3 weeks ago

why is anyone still giving airtime to this washed up has-been?

[–] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 7 points 3 weeks ago

racist-ass Melly Gibsins

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