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I feel like if he gets his way I’ll be prescribed sunshine, exercise, raw milk, and whatever drug a pharmaceutical bribed him to sell, instead of the immunomodulators I really need.

He’s like a mix of your uncle who thinks your chronic illness would go away if you “go outside and get some sunshine, stop being so negative, and eat more xyz” and your aunt who believes “acupuncture and supplements will cure you and all other medicines are a conspiracy”.

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[–] plz1@lemmy.world 128 points 4 weeks ago (11 children)

TIL the FDA aggressively suppresses the sun and exercise, somehow.

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 38 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

You can burn a lot of calories and get a lot of vitamin D from cutting the head off of a beached whale. The FDA is terrified of how this is not patentable.

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 34 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Exercise suppression is delegated to car-brained urban planners who design single-zoned suburbs without sidewalks where the only way to get exercise is to explicitly make it a consumer activity by driving to a gym to uselessly walk on a treadmill

[–] grue@lemmy.world 3 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

It's not just urban planners; it's also the Federal Housing Administration, which created lending guidelines back in the day that redlined all the dense traditional development.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 9 points 3 weeks ago

Hell, when it really comes down to it, they don't surpress things like psychedelics or stem cells, either. In so far as the FDA is involved at all, it's in following mandates from congress. Those things are suppressed as a matter of policy that's much broader than the FDA.

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[–] Potatisen@lemmy.world 53 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

Wasn't there a crazy amount of Americans getting sick from raw milk when that mental illness had its 15min over there?

[–] MoonManKipper@lemmy.world 57 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

Yes, pasteurisation is generally regarded as a massive breakthrough for a reason

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 34 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)

Thev raw milk wackos are right that raw milk is much tastier than Supermarket milk, but that's because of homogenization, not pasteurization.

A local farm here has "unprocessed" milk that is still pasteurized, and it's absolutely amazing, like drinking a desert. And best of all, it won't kill you.

(brain-worms screech disapprovingly)

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 8 points 3 weeks ago
[–] fsxylo@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

The only merit raw unpasteurized milk has is that you can make some damned good cheese and butter with it, but that's controlled fermentation so the risk of getting sick is low.

So I do wish raw milk was more available, just not on supermarket shelves(because idiots will drink that shit)

[–] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago

Yes, that shit is AMAZING...I drink it like a fine brandy

[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 15 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Even worse, farms that don't use things like antiparasitics can allow for milk to transfer parasite eggs, and sometimes live parasites, in the milk. Behind the Bastards did a great episode on the beginnings of the Pure Food and Drug Act, and one of the incidents that was mentioned was that occasionally, before large-scale pasteurization, you would get milk that was literally writhing with worms.

You're welcome for that thought just before lunch.

[–] Coldcell@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I may not have the whole picture, but a man previously brain-infected by worms is lowering the barriers and advocating for a vector for more brain worms?

I've seen this movie.

[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

...Goddammit, RFK has a Yeerk in his brain, doesn't he.

[–] Binette@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 weeks ago

It's just milk bundled with a special friend :)

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 4 points 4 weeks ago

Yeah, raw milk being in this list is just weird.

[–] mostNONheinous@lemmy.world 36 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

I thought the pro lifers hated the idea of harvesting stem cells?

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 27 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

There’s also some alternative medicine grifters trying to claim stem cells can cure anything. (What they call stem cells is basically just taking cells from people’s right arm and injecting it into their left arm).

Actual stemcell therapy is revolutionary for a few illnesses but doesn’t change much for the rest. But some alternative medicine grifters are trying to capitalise on the hype the name has.

I’m guessing Kennedy believes in the grifters, whose “therapy” has been rejected FDA approval because the is no evidence it works at all.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 0 points 3 weeks ago

Do you think RFK Jr is a pro lifer?

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 25 points 4 weeks ago

Excuse me, but I've seen several people undergo chelation due to heavy metal poisoning, and one of them said "if I didn't have kids, I'd probably prefer dying to this". Who in their right mind would do that for no reason?

And I just answered my own question

[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 24 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

You mean the guy that had worms eat a portion of his brain might not be all there? What?!

[–] Hupf 1 points 3 weeks ago

The sun is shining but no shadow is cast.

[–] N0x0n@lemmy.ml 22 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (2 children)

He has one point I do agree though... Psychedelics should not be banned and get proper study for everything related to mental issues.

There's a lot we don't know and there are a lot of studies world wide who do agree that psychedelics in controlled environment can elevated some symptoms; fear of death for terminal ill persons, hard drugs addiction, anxiety, depression... among others.

But hey, just take your SSRI from big pharma which most of the time does worst than help ! (Personal experience).

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 13 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

I do an annual camping trip with a big hike to a fairly high point in the area. Most years the group and I will take a small dose of psychedelics. It almost feels like some sort of pilgramage. The fresh air, the wind through the trees, the accomplishment of the hike, the exercise, it is all great and the psychedelics just seem to bundle it all together.

[–] N0x0n@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 weeks ago

That's nice !!

The fresh air, the wind through the trees, the accomplishment of the hike, the exercise, it is all great and the psychedelics just seem to bundle it all together.

Yeah that's mostly my experience :) It's somehow "freeing" your mental constructions and you're just there in the present moment !

However don't fall into the trap of doing it every time while hiking and being in the fresh air !

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 weeks ago

I agree, but neither should we be selling it in the supermarket.

Of course, there's a huge range of options between those two.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 19 points 4 weeks ago

This guy is such a moron

[–] Ulvain@sh.itjust.works 11 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Hydroxy chloroquine not being patented by pharma, what a pathetic moron

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 weeks ago

Isn't it a drug from the 50s? The patent would have expired decades ago.

[–] yamanii@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Are americans really against stem cells? This saved my mother's knee.

[–] RangerJosie@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

->"whatever drug a pharmaceutical bribed him to sell"

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 points 3 weeks ago

a noun phrase

[–] Badeendje@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Let them drink raw milk and shoot bleach into their veins. The issue is self solving.

[–] ahornsirup 13 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

The problem with that is that they're gonna murder their children (and other dependants) with this shit.

[–] Asidonhopo@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

Drinking raw milk also is a likely method for humans catching this dangerous bird flu that's been making all the cows sick

[–] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world -1 points 3 weeks ago

They already do that with "religious freedom"...which, btw, liberals have insisted that we "respect their beliefs"

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 4 points 4 weeks ago
  1. You're going to be headed to a nice vacation on your yacht.
[–] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I'd be excited about his fascist base offing themselves on this shit

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[–] Realitaetsverlust@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

What is the obsession with raw milk lmao

[–] skeezix@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

Unprocessed milk is healthier and tastier than processed milk... but only if the cows graze on grass. The problem with unprocessed milk isn't the milk itself; people have been drinking it for thousands of years. The problem with unprocessed milk is risk of contamination. When bottling it, It needs a clean environment, clean cows, attention to the health of the cows, and as a failsafe, pathogen testing. Mass production of milk in the US's current environment of aged, sick, corn-fed, hormone-dosed cows standing in cages in their own excrement is not conducive to unprocessed milk. It's so filthy that pasteurisation is a must. Creating and maintaining a clean environment, healthy appropriately fed herd, and testing, for the production of unprocessed milk is not economically viable at mass scale. If you want to produce millions of gallons of milk per annum, you unfortunately need dense cages. You need to keep your expenses low so you feed them cheap corn feed which they're not designed to eat. This lowers their immunity so that they often get sick, and have mastitis. So you have to load them up with antibiotics. They remain unhappy and unexcercised cows with poor quality milk which often contains a percentage of pus. Smaller farmers and operations can often invest the time and money to do what's necessary to produce clean unprocessed milk from healthy cows in a clean environment. In my country we have vending machines on farms for unprocessed milk. And each batch has a testing and pathogen report posted to verify it's good and healthy. In the US, the mass milk producers would rather everyone think that unprocessed milk is inherently dangerous itself prior to leaving the cow’s teat.

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