How many terrorists would you be willing to let die in order for the military to rescue your kidnapped child?
There isn't a number too high for me. My child is worth infinitely more than kidnappers.
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Like this 6-yo terrorist
If your parents are a terrorist, they made poor choices which led to your death.
Blood hungry psychopath.
I wonder if there is a number at all for which hammas would say “you know what, holding 100 hostages is just not worth so many dead people of our people, maybe we should just give them back”
The hostages are mere pawns leveraged by both military organizations and specifically by the IDF to justify the ongoing genocide. The IDF was killing their own citizens on October 7th alongside Hamas, and the Israeli government themselves issued that report. Israeli blockading of food supplies starves the Israeli hostages alongside the Palestinian civilians.
Why would Hamas ever give up hostages if this is how Israel acts towards their own captured citizens now?
“Ongoing genocide” The moment hammas is de weaponized and hostages are back all this would stop.
“Blockading food” The state of Israel just presented today to the supreme court that 6000 truck per months entered gaza since hmammas started this shit. Thats not blockade.
If Israel wanted to genocide gazans it could use much more efficient methods for this.
To add to that that BY HAMMAS numbers they had 19000 of their own killed by now. That's about 1:1 (taking hammas claims for 35000 people killed so far) ratio to civilians so far. Pretty damn good for any military world wide. This is not how genocide lools Like.
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hammas would say
Who in Hamas would say this? Is there any kind of leadership structure that hasn't been carpet bombed out of existence already? How would any two members communicate with one another absent an IDF strike team murdering anyone in a city block's radius from the call?
obviously yes or the iron dome wouldn't still be shooting down rockets
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I think i'm slowly turning antisemitic
I sincerely hope this is a poor attempt at a joke because that kind of statement has contributed directly to the current situation. It is not antisemitic to criticize the Israeli government, Zionism, or the IDF and its actions. It is antisemitic to say the reason you are criticizing those things is because they are all Jews.
Conflating those two not only makes it impossible to speak out against the atrocities being committed, it makes violence worse against Jews.
It is not antisemitic to criticize the Israeli government, Zionism, or the IDF and its actions.
This is not the narrative that Israel is pushing or that the U.S. adopts legally.
Zionists are royally screwing over the Jews.
It's fucked up, Zionists say "all Jews support Israel because Israel IS Judaism" then when a Jewish person is attacked for what Israel does they say "see, it's the proof they're anti-semites, they attacked a Jewish person outside of Israel, if they were truly only against Israel they wouldn't have done that"
Zionists are literally using all foreign Jews as human shields. Putting them up as defacto Israeli representatives, then as martyrs.
Why were they holding military hostages in a refugee camp?
Where else would it be safe to hold the hostages? The rest of the area is getting bombed to oblivion. Most of the hostages are probably under rubble.
I hear there's this intricate network of tunnels they hide in.
I doubt the hostages would survive a sponge bomb, you know, the kind the IDF uses to clear tunnels (they built).
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Because Hamas is just a shitty as Israel. The only difference seems to be that Israel is far, far more effective.
And that Hamas keeps military hostages in civilian refugee campus.
Yes pretty shitty isn’t it.
Do you think it’s an acceptable response to murder 274 other innocent people to save those 4? Are Israeli lives worth more than Palestinian lives to you?
Of those 274, I wonder how many of those will now want to join Hamas for vengeance against the people that killed their families.
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Israel detains many Palestinians including hundreds of minors without charge, on bases right in the middle of civilian towns. Heck, IDF headquarters is right in the middle of a civilian neighborhood in Tel Aviv. Does that mean Tel Aviv is a legitimate military target?
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To maximize civilian casualties, obviously. Hamas profits off the deaths of Palestinian civilians, so why wouldn't they want civilians to die?
They're now trying to come up with a justification to attack the pier Biden installed to prevent aid from getting in. So Palestinians will starve. Then people will be outraged and donate more money to Hamas. There's no downside for Hamas psychopaths.
Yep, and the agencies disseminating these things come from a typical cast of characters (hello Turkey and Iran!). It's great that more aid is getting to Palestinians.
US-Built Pier Used in Israel’s Brutal Nuseirat Camp Attack in Gaza: Report
According to a report by The Cradle online news magazine, the Israeli forces carried out the assault on Saturday, killing hundreds of Palestinians and retrieving four Israeli captives.
"The troops were then flown out of Gaza via the US-built pier, which had been reinstalled on the coast on Friday after undergoing tens of millions in repairs," The Cradle stated.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-support-israeli-forces-rescue-hostages-gaza/
Video circulating online Saturday shows an IDF helicopter taking off from the beach with the U.S. pier in the backdrop. Two U.S. officials told CBS News that the U.S. pier was not used in the IDF operation. It is offshore to assist delivery of humanitarian aid. A U.S. official explained that the helicopter landed south of the facility on a beach but not within the cordoned area of the pier.
"The pier facility was not used in the operation to rescue hostages today in Gaza. An area south of the facility was used to safely return the hostages to Israel," a U.S. official said. "Any such claim to the contrary is false. The temporary pier on the coast of Gaza was put in place for one purpose only, to help get more urgently needed lifesaving assistance into Gaza."
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Where would you prefer they hold them? I mean it's not like Israel has left them any other choice.
*** And I'm not saying I agree with taking/holding hostages. I'm simply responding to the question you asked.
Maybe in a sectioned off portion of their tunnel system, one where Hamas fighters are defending them without Palestinian civilians in between. I haven't heard of Palestinians being allowed to camp out in there, so that might be a better place to keep hostages than apartment buildings. They could then keep fighting segmented more easily I would imagine and preserve more civilian lives.
Maybe in a sectioned off portion of their tunnel system
Riiight. After Israel has carpet bombed AND bulldozed much of Gaza.
Show me on a map where you think the in-tact tunnel systems are located.
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