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*What rights do you have to the digital movies, TV shows and music you buy online? That question was on the minds of Telstra TV Box Office customers this month after the company announced it would shut down the service in June. Customers were told that unless they moved over to another service, Fetch, they would no longer be able to access the films and TV shows they had bought. *

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[–] 9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

If buying isnt owning then piracy isnt stealing

[–] _number8_@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

When record companies make a fuss about the danger of “piracy”, they’re not talking about violent attacks on shipping. What they complain about is the sharing of copies of music, an activity in which millions of people participate in a spirit of cooperation. The term “piracy” is used by record companies to demonize sharing and cooperation by equating them to kidnaping, murder and theft.

[–] evidences@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Piracy has never been theft, it has always been and still remain copyright infringement. That being said go ahead and pirate, I'm not your dad.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago

That being said go ahead and pirate, I’m not your dad

What am I letters on a screen? I'm not going to stop you.

[–] designatedhacker@lemm.ee 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

They could offer a way to download a copy and steganographically tag it to hell with your id so that they know if you distribute it. You can "loan it out" by letting friends stream off your Plex or whatever. If you start selling that streaming service or it shows up in torrents, it has your ID on it.

Boom, you own it forever and you're incentivized not to over share.

Or you know sell DRM free versions and let people do whatever, but that probably has a snowballs chance in hell.

[–] tkk13909@sopuli.xyz 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Your first proposal still falls victim to the fact that screen recording exists.

[–] _number8_@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

I literally watch TV through a capture card right now out of stubbornness and principle. Anything I want to record, I can just hit a button and safely keep. No DRM preventing me from taking screenshots, I can manipulate the picture to hide obnoxious graphics or ads (great for sports); the sense of control is extremely gratifying.

[–] _number8_@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

i tried to get into streaming but i grew increasingly uncomfortable with paying forever as titles appear and disappear at the whim of suits. how could that possibly be a pleasant UX for customers?

i'd take the hassle of having discs or managing a server any day of the week over paying these goons for access to their files which they happily negotiate away for financial reasons. it's just a disgusting paradigm. when netflix was starting streaming, i thought (i was like 15) we were emerging into a great new age, where every show you could ever want was on one beautiful service.

now they won't even let you share accounts or screenshot the fucking show (a pig-headed anti-piracy measure which is mind-blowingly stupid given every single show on there is available for free if you know where to look ANYWAY. what are they DOING.)

fuck streaming, fuck netflix, fuck spotify. crash and burn. topple like the house of cards you are.

[–] otacon239@feddit.de 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I went the route of a physical collection, but man do they make it difficult unless you get a commercial player that is likely to have ads and doesn’t integrate well into a home theater setup.

I’ve taken to doing everything I can to play things through my computer, but they do everything in their power to make them unplayable. This includes things like adding hundreds of bogus playlists so you don’t know which one to play, adding extra layers of encryption that cause image corruption a few chapters into the movies, and more.

If they just allowed you to easily watch and rip the movies that I pay actual money for, I think a lot more people would be open to a physical collections of their favorites. As it stands, I can’t really recommend it.

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

MakeMKV and Handbrake are godsends.

MakeMKV hasn't failed to rip a DVD to MKV for me yet. I have hundreds of videos from DVDs.

Most I convert to MP4 using Handbrake to save space and for compatibility.

As for playing, look into running something like a NUC (small PC about 2x the size of Apple TV), with Kodi on it. It can play your entire library either stored on it or on a NAS or practically from any storage on your network, and connect to your TV via HDMI. It's effectively a local streaming box.

[–] otacon239@feddit.de 0 points 4 months ago

For DVDs, I’ve never had an issue. They just amplified the BS on BluRays tenfold.

[–] MonkderDritte@feddit.de 0 points 4 months ago
[–] RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

She later said Telstra had contacted her and offered a free Fetch box, which she acknowledged was a “reasonable resolution”.

And we have learned exactly nothing here. See you in 2 years when Fetch closes down and you are not getting anything back because you actually did not "buy" those movies on Fetch but on the previous platform.

[–] Aarkon@feddit.de 0 points 4 months ago

Well, that or go to court for a movie collection. I'd phrase my statement differently, but I can see the appeal of the settlement.

[–] unreasonabro@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The idea that you could trust a corporation, any corporation, at its word is laughable on its face, and yet the courts have been relying on them to "follow the rules" unsupervised for years. Now capitalism doesn't make anything that isn't designed as a piece of shit that falls apart, and everything is a lie that they're also making money from, from plastics recycling (not real and they make money on the chemicals they sell to the recycling industry) to the content you make that they get paid for and you don't.

The whole thing needs to go, all of it.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

The idea that you could trust a corporation, any corporation, at its word is laughable on its face

We're surrounded by corporate entities all trying to leech profit out of us.

It's less a question of trust and more of information alternatives. When all you can hear is the din of advertisement, it's difficult to chart a path through the racket.

You're bound to get suckered by someone, eventually.

[–] Shadowq8@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You will own nothing and be happy.

This is why sites like lemmy are important.

We need to put an end to corporate tyranny.

Humans in power are too egocentric to not be kept in check.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago

You will own nothing and be happy.

Unironically the future of capitalism, as it devolves into feudalism with more killer robots.

You've got the CEO (Absolute Monarch) who owns all the shit and you work on it in exchange for not being killed or deported. Maybe you get some treats from time to time. More likely, you just get someone from the PMC to tell you to pray more.

Humans in power are too egocentric to not be kept in check.

A handful of humans with the power to deliver unlimited genocide on their neighbors are hard to keep in check.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago

My whole library is wipped out

I assumed this was about an actual library and not some shmuck who got suckered into a thinly veiled rental service.