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Yes I am aware that they're somehow supposed to reduce plastic waste because the cap can't get lost ... unless you cut it off, of course.

Yes I am also aware that there are people with disabilities (shaky hands, weak grip, etc.) who are thankful for these and actually like the design. Good for them, and I mean that in a non-sarcastic way.

But personally, I hate these things with all the "first world problems" rage I can muster and go out of my way to rip / cut / twist them off on every single bottle I buy. I don't like having the bottle cap directly in my face while drinking, or slipping in the way of the flow whenever I just want to pour milk, and on more than one occasion, I've actually cut my finger OR lip on these little sh*ts (not the same type as in the picture, but baldy-made longer "bands" that leave little plastic spikes on the cap and/or band).

No idea whether I should post this in the "unpopular opinion" section instead or if other people think the same, but to me, "mildly infuriating" describes them perfectly.

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[–] Thrife 1 points 1 day ago

Seriously, in the end it boils down to this: "I hate these things with all the "first world problems" rage I can muster ".. Don't you guys have other problems in your life? There you are, raging against a bottle cap.

Like another poster said and showed with a picture before: the cap can be tucked in at the side and voilà! Drinking can be done as it used to be..

[–] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Just repeating my comment from the same topic a while back.

So okay the bottle ones like this are fine

It is these fuckers I have an issue with

I swear if I ever see the person who designed the new milk cap I will make them choke on a fucking tetrapak.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

How come? Does it close while you're pouring?

[–] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It makes you spill the milk everywhere when opening because you don't twist it but pull it upwards.

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 48 points 4 days ago (7 children)

This is some very short sighted thinking.

Caps attached to the bottles is very important to the recycling industry, so they can be more cheaply and efficiently shipped to China and thrown into the sea.

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[–] Shimitar@feddit.it 26 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I honestly like them. Those that "stay open", of course... They just stay out of the way, never get lost, and works pretty nice.

At first I disliked them, but quickly found out they are actually... Very practical. Even not considering the "green" twist, why didn't we adopted them before?

[–] Noodle07@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

As an idiot who couldn't remember where the fuck I put down the cap 5sec ago I really like them

[–] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 128 points 5 days ago (8 children)

what i think when people struggle with the cap hitting their face

[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 31 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Pretty much. Whenever I see these type of posts I can only think of some cavemen failing to figure out the most simple contraption. Those caps are literally not a problem at all, assuming you're not a complete moron.

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[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 8 points 3 days ago

Normally/averagely abled people - how is any configuration of the cap an issue?

To even think about it takes more energy than any obvious solution (like holding the bonded cap whilst drinking or not ripping it off the seal ring in the non-bonded versions).

Is it just because we are old and any change is annoying af?

[–] deezbutts@lemm.ee 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Am I the only person who's literally never seen such a thing exist in the wild

[–] deltapi@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Come to Germany for a visit.Picture of German water bottle with 'leashed' lid

[–] robigan@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago
[–] half_built_pyramids@lemmy.world 42 points 4 days ago (6 children)

Fuck plastic bottles in general, back to glass.

[–] RecluseRamble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 4 days ago (7 children)

This generalization is a problem. Assessing the whole life cycle, the carbon footprint of glass bottles is problematic and plastics is a viable alternative.

You have to consider the significantly higher weight of glass increasing carbon emissions from transportation.

While plastics bottles can only be reused about half as often as glass bottles, their production is far more energy-efficient (glass production is done at temps of 1400-1600 °C or 2500-3000 °F while plastics use temperatures from 160-300 °C or 320-600 °F) which also reduces carbon footprint in basically every country.

Of course recycling has to be taken seriously and properly organized to prevent plastics just ending up in nature. But we have to balance the micro-plastics problem against climate change. We need to solve both.

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[–] coffinwood@discuss.tchncs.de 58 points 5 days ago (2 children)

If everyone had either stopped buying bottled beverages or cleaned up after themselves, this wouldn't be an issue.

Also, y'all sound a little whiny. This isn't even a first world problem.

[–] RecluseRamble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 4 days ago (7 children)

stopped buying bottled beverages

What's the alternative in your opinion? I don't think barrels and glasses are viable in every case. Serious question.

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[–] TauZero@mander.xyz 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I pick up street litter, and having picked up thousands of pounds, I have never felt that loose caps are a problem, let alone one that requires such a solution. The number of littered bottles, with or without a cap, is greater than the number of loose caps, and the amount of plastic in every bottle dwarfs the plastic in a cap. Fixing the cap to the bottle will do nothing to improve the recycling rate of plastic if entire bottles are already tossed anyway.

I consider the idea of cap tethers as adversarial memetic warfare thrust upon us for some unknown ulterior purpose, possibly to make us hate the very idea of environmental consciousness. Same as paper straws. I like plastic bag bans though.

As far as picking litter is concerned, I personally prefer finding bottles without a cap. At least those are empty, all liquid having evaporated after the bottle has spent several months in the bushes. The capped bottles are often half-full and are just nasty. (Who even pays for a bottle of drink and not drinks half of it anyway?)

[–] Muehe@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The number of littered bottles, with or without a cap, is greater than the number of loose caps,

That smells like survivorship bias. Your dataset is skewed by loose caps being way harder to find due to being smaller. It stands to reason that all those bottles without a cap you find will have also had their cap littered in the vast majority of cases.

[–] TauZero@mander.xyz 2 points 2 days ago

Yeah, I concede that small caps are more likely to be carried away by rainwater than whole bottles :D. What I meant was that for every loose cap on the ground there is a bottle lying around somewhere, and also there are bottles with caps on. No one is tossing their cap into the bushes and then taking the bottle to the recycling center.

[–] brlemworld@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago (2 children)

They should make it so the cap doesn't come off at all, so you have to buy a glass bottle with a metal cap that are both recyclable and won't give you erectile disfunction.

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[–] qevlarr@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago (5 children)

The bottle cap folds out of the way. If you have it "in your face", it sounds like a skill issue

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[–] Nomad@infosec.pub 38 points 5 days ago (1 children)

They are mostly there to prevent sea animals from swallowing the cap and dying a slow agonizing death...

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure the solution is to stop throwing plastic into the ocean.

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[–] moonburster@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I don't mind them on soda, but during yoghurt is a mess. I have a beard and after drinking one of those I 8/10 times have a milky beard

[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

milky beard

Good username

[–] scottmeme@sh.itjust.works 28 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Stop buying single use plastic and get a reusable!

#DeathToPlastic

[–] Azzu@lemm.ee 15 points 4 days ago (9 children)

There literally is no option for it. I can only buy my milk in cartons with this cap on

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[–] countstex@feddit.dk 13 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Perhaps becuase you've only opened it half way, you need to lift it back over again and clip in under the rim.

[–] 6mementomori@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

this is not doable with all caps and even with those designed to do this it doesn't work sometimes :(

[–] countstex@feddit.dk 8 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Maybe they make them better here in Denmark. Plus we have "Pant" where you pay more for the bottles but get money back when you return them so it's a "belt and braces" approach I guess!

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[–] dumbass@leminal.space 6 points 3 days ago

Naww look at the little lid trying to flip that bottle over, so cute.

[–] L0rdMathias@sh.itjust.works 27 points 5 days ago (3 children)

You can rotate the bottle before taking a sip to position it such that the cap doesn't hit your face. You can also pour liquid out of the bottle without having it run into the cap using the same rotation technique before pouring.

[–] amotio@lemmy.world 18 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Apparently this very advanced technique is too complicated for some people.

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[–] ekky@sopuli.xyz 11 points 4 days ago

I had quite some beef with the tethered caps in the beginning when they didn't latch properly, but have since gotten used to them. That said:

  • Cap on top -> Funny hat for nose!
  • Cap on bottom -> Beard gets to take a moist nap.
  • Cap on sides -> Mustache also gets to take a sip!

Obviously not much of a problem. I'd need to clean my facial hair either way if eating ice cream or other messy foods, but cap rotation might not be effective if your "face" sticks out 1-2cm from your mouth.

One could also attempt to rotate the cap in a way to achieve quantum tunneling, but I don't feel that I've achieved that level of "tethered cap proficiency" yet.

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[–] I_Clean_Here@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago

Old man yells at cloud energy

[–] brap@lemmy.world 24 points 5 days ago

I don't buy bottles any more because of it so I guess it's worked better than expected.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 days ago

This is one of the dumbest things I've seen. What even is the point? This is just so dumb. Maybe you could break off the cap?

If you are worried about environmental impact ts they could just make them out of aluminum. We already have aluminum cans. Adding more plastic to the bottle will just create more waste.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago

baldy-made

What's folks' lack of hair got to do with their bottle cap making skills?

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

They are awesome!

The issue I had with them at first was that I thought you had to rip it off halfway, then it was annoying as hell, but if you just unscrew it and fold it open untill it locks open it works great!

To close you just have to pull it up slightly to get it over the opening and then srew it closed

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Guess I've gotten used to them. At the beginning I'd just rip the cap off anyways, but now somehow managing though I do buy this sorta bottles rather rarely nowadays.

ANYWAYS I don't understand why so many products come in plastic bottles, or carton box with a fucking plastic cap. Aluminum cans are great, cartons are great, glass bottles are great. Why plastic???

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[–] Gigagoblin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 4 days ago

my dad is disabled. had a stroke, shaky hands & stuff forever. he fuken h8's these new caps. i personally don't care much, unless i'm drinking yoghurt out of a bottle.

[–] morgunkorn@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 5 days ago

They're also in Germany now, as mandated in every EU country, but I don't have to deal with them because there's also a heavy culture of reusable glass bottles (Mehrweg Flaschen) distributed in standard reusable crates. Everything has a deposit so you always bring them back when refilling.

I don't mind them either but get yourself cheap cable pliers and cut the tether when you need to, or pour into a cup instead of drinking from the bottle.

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