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Most instances don't have a specific copyright in their ToS, which is basically how copyright is handled on corporate social media (Meta/X/Reddit owns license rights to whatever you post on their platform when you click "Agree"). I've noticed some people including Copyright notices in posts (mostly to prevent AI use). Is this necessary, or is the creator the automatic copyright owner? Does adding the copyright/license information do anything?

Please note if you have legal credentials in your reply. (I'm in the USA, but I'd be interested to hear about other jurisdictions if there are differences)

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[–] platypode@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

does adding the copyright/license information do anything?

Not a lawyer, but I'd be sore amazed if "your honor, he copy/pasted my Lemmy comment" flies in court, regardless of your copyright status. The same goes for those AI use notices--they're a nice feel-good statement, but the scrapers won't care, and good luck (a) proving they scraped your comment, (b) proving they made money on it, and (c) getting a single red dime for your troubles.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You're better off just pasting this guy into every comment to poison the well.

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[–] sneezycat@sopuli.xyz 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

We'll all do it and then the AI will learn and do it too, but it'll be too late for us to stop, having become a custom ingrained in the population.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

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[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Not really, it's just tropicaldingdong pasting their fursona for the second time

[–] Danterious@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Well first thing is that the license is a copyleft license so it is still allowed to be used, distributed, etc. the only real difference between this license and public domain (as far as I know) is me saying that I don't want it being used for commercial purposes that's it.

Also for me its more just a way for me to say fuck you to everything having to be commercialized so even if it doesn't hold legal water I don't care.

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[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

There's a bit more to it than just that

BY - attribution is required

NC - as you said, cannot be used for commercial purposes

SA - Share Alike -anything using it must be shared under a similar license.

[–] Danterious@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Ah well then I might try and find a license that doesn't require attribution because I don't care about that part. But the rest seem exactly what I'm going for.

Edit: grammar

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[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago

Ah well then I might try and find a license that doesn’t require attribution because I don’t care about that part.

I would argue attribution is also really important, as it forces them to expose publicly how they're training their models, bringing awareness.

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[–] echodot@feddit.uk 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Right but if they use your content anyway and you find out (and that's a big if, because it'll just disappear into some AI data set and you'll never see it again), what are you going to do? Sue?

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago

what are you going to do? Sue?

Personally? I let Creative Commons know what's going on, that their licenses are being ignored.

I'm pretty sure they'd have something to say about the matter.

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[–] otp@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I don't think it really does or can do anything.

I think it makes people feel good, like they're fighting against AI or something.

In my opinion, it just clutters up comments.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's crazy to me that anyone thinks it does anything. How can someone who cares enough about AI not know the controversies about OpenAI's training data?

The people and organizations building LLMs do not give a fuck if you add that garbage to your comment or not.

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Does that mean creative commons doesn't really mean anything? I have my website cc by sa, thinking or changing it to cc by sa no cc but I feel like companies would still take my stuff from my website.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Not sure but at the very least it's way less annoying to see it on a website than it is under every comment

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

at the very least it’s way less annoying to see it on a website than it is under every comment

You're free to block those that use the license, if you find it annoying to see.

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[–] glimse@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You're free to reply to a week-old comment, too, but neither is a great idea

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

You’re free to reply to a week-old comment, too, but neither is a great idea

Actually, five days, not a week.

And also, sometimes its just about making a point, even if you stumble upon something later on. 🀷

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[–] glimse@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

What is that point?

at the very least it’s way less annoying to see it on a website than it is under every comment

You’re free to block those that use the license, if you find it annoying to see.

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[–] glimse@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The point you felt was worth making a week later is that I am free to block someone who does something I find kind of annoying?

That seems a little extreme to me. Why would you encourage that?

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

The point you felt was worth making a week later

Again, five days ago. Some people like myself stumble upon a post/comment days and days later from when its initially posted.

is that I am free to block someone who does something I find kind of annoying?

Yeah, for some reason people who complain about me using a license seem to keep forgetting that option, but instead just continue to complain, for some strange reason, no matter how many times I remind them of that option. Thought it was a good PSA to remind the complainers they they have alternatives to complaining.

That seems a little extreme to me.

If that seems extreme to you, then you need to touch grass more often.

Extreme would be continuing to complain about something that you have the power to change, but don't change.

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