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    I remember when Proton launched it was like magic playing games like Doom and Nier Automata straight from the Linux Steam client with excellent performance. I do not miss the days of having the Windows version of Steam installed separately.

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    [–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    In the time I have been a Linux gamer, it has gone from "here is a list of games that work in Linux" to "here is a list of games that do not work in Linux." Which some dictionaries define as "progress."

    [–] atmur@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

    That's a perfect way to put it. From constantly relying on ProtonDB to occasionally checking areweanticheatyet.com.

    [–] Synnr@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    That's crazy! When I was last trying to run Linux full time in ~2014, you had WINE and then a commercial version of WINE (not by the WINE devs, but because WINE is licensed the way it is and is open source...) that would run a few more things, but I don't remember what it was called.

    So glad to hear it's progressing this quickly and far.

    [–] atmur@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

    a commercial version of WINE

    That would be CrossOver by CodeWeavers. They're actually a huge contributor to upstream Wine and have worked with Valve (and I think Collabora?) several times over the past few years. I'm kind of tempted to buy a copy of CrossOver to support them even though I'd never use it, lol

    [–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    I started out in 2014, and pretty much what I did was look to see if there was a Steam logo on the Steam store page to indicate Linux compatibility. With Proton in the last few years, I just don't really worry about it. I will say my tastes have just about always lined up with the kinds of games, the kinds of studios, that are likely to publish for Linux, the nerd shit like Kerbal Space Program and Factorio. I don't play Call of Fifa, Modern Fortnite or whatever.

    [–] Chee_Koala@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

    What about Red Theft Autoredemption, or Overwatch of Legends? 😆

    [–] AlmightySnoo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    And to say that there used to be a time when "Linux gaming" was an oxymoron as it at most meant SuperTuxKart or mindlessly watching glxgears.

    [–] kyub@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

    It's an important milestone as it's the only effective way to make PC gaming available on operating systems other than Windows (i.e., reduce one of the Windows monopolies). Still, Linux gamers shouldn't take it too far. I'd advise everyone to still not support game studios which are openly hostile towards Linux gamers. This especially includes the ones who rely on client-side anticheat tools and then use those to block Linux gamers even though the game would run perfectly fine on Linux as well. Please do not support such games or studios (e.g.: Epic Games, EA, Bungie, Riot). Thanks to Proton, there is still a massive number of Windows games that can be played instead.

    [–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

    Anticheat is about to force this progress backwards years as publishers push drm

    [–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

    Windows too busy using those cpu cycles to gather your usage metrics for sale to third parties.

    [–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

    Valve literally went "you know what fuck the profits we need off Windows" and they did what nobody else has done before.

    [–] Apollo2323@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

    True I just moved my gaming PC to Linux and wow!! Almost all of my games run on Linux. Thank you for everyone working so hard.

    [–] Killing_Spark@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

    And I honestly love valve for taking wine which is an impressive project on it's own and making it even better.

    [–] polle@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Iam using a Laptop with a thunderbolt connected gtx1070. Does someone have experience or tips using linux and gaming with a setup like that. That and (solidworks) are the last reasons i didn't switch already.

    [–] Chee_Koala@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    because @clegko mentions shit support :( , maybe look at the framework laptop for your next upgrade? they are doing some stuff with replaceable parts, and the newest one even swappable gpu's.

    [–] polle@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

    Sadly my current laptop is kinda new (half a year) and I searched way to long, because I have a weird taste. (I am used to hardware mouse buttons, so thinkpads are mostly the only option. I also dislike the odd haptic gummy feeling of premium thinkpads, which only some models don't have (for example T490s, T14sG1 and G2) or the Yoga X1 series which is aluminum, which I gladly found a nice deal of the 2019 model.

    This search went on for about a year. :O

    [–] clegko@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Thunderbolt support in Linux is shit. I tried similar (but with an AMD card) and it was problem after problem when it came to the Thunderbolt stuff.

    [–] polle@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

    Thats sad to hear.

    [–] Gemini24601@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Imagine a completely different OS running software made for your OS better than your actual OS could. This is Microsoft Windows

    [–] 30p87@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

    Also, games designed for Windows and just exported as native for Linux are often much worse than using the Windows version than Proton. Splitgate suffered from it, the original HL had some Problems as native and now CS2 is completely unplayable for me.

    [–] anteaters@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

    This week I decided to try dual booting with OpenSuse again and see how much I still need Windows for gaming. Turns out: not much. For VR. And maybe for Game Pass games if cloud gaming turns out to be crap and I cannot get a VM performant enough for games.

    All in all, very pleasing experience.

    [–] Twospoons@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    If only Linux wouldn't Bork my whole install when I try to switch to 144hz on my monitor.

    [–] rasensprenger@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Borking an entire install by pressing buttons on a monotor is pretty difficult. What exactly were you doing? Did you ask your OS' community for support?

    [–] Twospoons@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    All I did was on first install go to display settings and change to 144hz in the OS and screen then goes black and never came back. Force a shutdown and boots back to a black screen after login.

    I was eventually able to change things back to 60hz and working through booting to cli but 144 never wanted to work (am admittedly using Nvidia card).

    So not completely borked but not ideal at all.

    [–] rasensprenger@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

    Ah yeah nvidia can be painful, especially if you want wayland. But this seems to be a simple modesetting issue, I'm sure there are some known workarounds. You can also report driver bugs directly to nvidia, but I don't know if that will do much.