Man I really wonder what the venn diagram of Linux users/furries are. But I'm thinking it might be a circle within a circle kinda thing.
this post was submitted on 16 Apr 2024
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I use Linux because I like to know that if my computer doesn't do what I want, it's my own damn fault (and not some corporation trying to screw me over).
yea but from that frustration eventually comes the knowledge we want.
that was me when i switched and now i know what its doing on my most common workloads.
Shouldn't be so frustrating in the first place.
There are disstros for that. And no just no. it is wrong to want to be spoonfed your computing needs, that's what apple and microsofts wants: to turn your computer into a opaque magic box that does fuck all for you but also does loads of shit for their own interests on linux you are your own apple/microsoft you own your computer and it is an openbook that you can read and edit whererver you want in it and if it breaks and you fix it you only comeout more experienced from the experience
it is wrong to want to be spoonfed your computing needs
Why though? It's not like you are building your own OS every time on assembler level, or do you?
Making software more convenient is one of the reasons for having software at all.
That doesn't mean turning it into an "opaque box" where company interests will be pushed. Having a more user experience oriented design in Linux distros can save a lot of time and frustration as well as make it more attractive to average users. Even power users, who work with Linux professionally will benefit.
And it just might start with something as simple as proper documentation of a package.
Lol, I relate with this a lot.
I always figure it out, but Linux is not user friendly. The last issue I had was trying to get my vpn to work. It took me a few minutes to realize my vpn provider doesn't support a gui on there.
This is the issue with Linux. It needs better support and adaptation. If it got that focus from third parties, I'd gladly make it my daily driver.
Here's to hoping the attempts from companies like steam are only the beginning of a new thriving trend!
The terminal is not an accessory like on Windows, it's apart of the daily Linux experience
If Linux wants to ever have adoption outside tech people then it can't be. If a normide has to open up a terminal then that's already one less Linux user.
I have used Linux for my main PC for a very long time but I have also worked in tech support and your average user will never ever use an OS where using the terminal is mandatory.
I my opinion there should be some hobbyist distros where the terminal is your daily experience like Arch or Gentoo but the main focus should be accessibility for the average user if adoptability is a goal.
If you don't like using the Terminal use Mint, but even this one require some basics terminal skills that everybody could learn fast. Linux is made this way.
Oh, there are tons of distros where you don't need to use the terminal for anything, even Manjaro, an arch based distro, doesn't need you to ever open the terminal. I was just saying that if adoption is the goal then using the terminal can't be a requirement for a normal user experience.
Wrong example, Manjaro is probably the less stables distro i've tried, and thoses issues seems to be common when you look at the forum
What I mean is that using the terminal isn't mandatory in Manjaro while Arch and Arch based distros all require it. So for that it's an excellent example.
As for stability it's a bit more stable than Arch itself from my experience but I still has issues. The most stable distro I have used was Pop OS, I didn't have a single issue there for like 3 years straight, I only switched because of a hardware change and Pop OS's Mesa version was unstable on the new hardware.
My central point is still that you will never in a million years get the average computer user to use a terminal.
you will never in a million years get the average computer user to use a terminal.
We used to back in the 20th century, when computer didn't had GUI
No, we didn't. Average computer users didn't exist then, only tech people.
Yep as you said not everybody is made to use a computer, but everybody can learn how to with a minimum of will
Wait, so you think computer usage should go back to just large companies and a few niche enthusiasts?
Im just saying everybody can learn basic terminal commands, because on Linux you're on your own
It shouldn't be though. A command line interface is not user friendly for entry-level users, and until Linux UX designers realise this, Linux will never gain a greater market share. And we have seen this with Ubuntu, Mint, and other "user friendly" distros gaining popularity. I'm not saying that we should necessarily aim for broad-scale adoption of Linux as an end in itself, but more users means more support for Linux which means a better experience for all.
Linux was never meant to be "user-friendly", Windows and Linux are 2 differents things, but i know this fact is hard to accept tho.
I'm in no way a Windows fan. Use manjaro for desktop, and ubuntu for servers as of now but keep trying new distros and love changing all the time, unfortunately. However, I dread to think if I was stuck on another planet with a linux distro without internet access to troubleshoot or find out how to do random things...
Drop manjaro l, start using endeavor, thank me later when your system doesnt randomly break on an update
Long-term Manjaro user, no issues.
Just don't mess with AUR unless you have to; it's a good practice to make snapshots as well.
Endeavor is no more stable, it's very much unfiltered Arch with all its issues of "oh, you didn't read an update note? Your bad". Arch had literally broken GRUB on updates in the past.
Used Manjaro in the past, probably the worst distro i've tried. Multiple screens issues, kernel issues, keyboard and mouse issues, and when i look at the forum thoses are commons on Manjaro
Interesting. Never experienced any of that personally. Might depend on hardware?
Maybe, but it mean Manjaro has serious Hardware compatibility issues with most.
And what would you do on that other planet without Internet and stuck with Microsoft Windows and no way to activate your OEM license ? At least Linux has nice manual pages to read in the main time off-line π
I believe you can simply leave it unregistered and it'll still work indefinitely. Plus you aren't getting updates forced down your throat, since you're not connected to the internet.
When I see these kind of posts I can't help but think that maybe they're being made by people who could be astroturfing for another company and itβs OS, in a negative way, to redirect the narrative.
Because Microsoft cares so much about an 18.6K-member community called βlinuxmemesβ on a small federated Reddit alternative known for being filled with die-hard Linux fans and furries?
There's ~~vermin~~ furries here?
Careful of the venn diagram β if you're talking to a member of a Linux community on Lemmy, chances are they aren't anti-furry.
I will die on this hill. Their down votes mean nothing to me. I've seen what makes them cheer.
To be fair, it only gets complicated once Windows gets involved (Wine)
Stop with the fury stuff
Y'know what? I'm gonna be even more of a furry now, just to spite you.
Uh oh you've made people furious.
hahahahahaha