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Meanwhile in North America, Canada's VIA is operating on a shoestring and being further threatened ... and in the last 50 years the US has pulled up most of the rails that were installed in the previous century. We're stuck with airplanes, hybrid metro-transit, and what's left of Greyhound. But, hey, we've got a world to police!

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[–] Tarogar 58 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's an effect that our conservatives from CDU and CSU as well as liberals from FDP are denying to exist and are decrying the fact that it costs money (and helps the average guy, but they can't say that out loud)

[–] cmhe@lemmy.world 42 points 1 month ago

That is why we can't have nice things. Everything needs to make a profit and cannot simply be good.

Infrastructure shoudn't be required to make a profit. They are there for the public good. What's next? Paying for sitting on public benches and entering public parks? Paying for the privilege to exit your house and use the public sidewalk? We already have to pay to use public toilets in some cases...

These things should be available to everyone for free and build and financed via general taxes.

[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 46 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Meanwhile in North America, Canada's VIA is operating on a shoestring and being further threatened ...

Meanwhile in Germany the 49€ ticket is on the verge of dying and will be soon the 58€ ticket - all while the railroads are practically falling apart and the FDP, who is in charge of the transportation ministry, wants to feed 100 million to save an air taxi startup. lol

Maybe be a bit careful with what kind of "success" story you want to flaunt around.

[–] Miaou@jlai.lu 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This article just reminded me to cancel my DB ticket, so they didn't get everything wrong I guess

[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 5 points 1 month ago

I couldn't even afford it, not even the so called "social ticket" for 39€ (Preisstufe A). lol

[–] _edge@discuss.tchncs.de 37 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

And that is with shit rail infrastructure. Guess what would happen if we'd actually invest in rails?

Edit: Removed comma

[–] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This is totally unrelated but we don't use that comma after 'Guess' in English. I'm reminded of it because I'm learning German and it's been very difficult for me to remember to put commas after "I think" etc.

[–] _edge@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 month ago
[–] BatrickPateman@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Hell would freeze over, that's what would happen.

[–] NiPfi@lemmy.world 28 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Too bad the announced price increase undoes about half of that

[–] thetreesaysbark@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Do you have a link to the increase? I did hear about it but everything I see online just says it's extended in to 2024.

[–] dvallin@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] thetreesaysbark@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Thanks. Shame it's increasing but 58EUR is still pretty good value, no?

[–] timconspicuous@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Increasing the price by almost a fifth under a "center-left" government means this thing is just doomed once the right gets into power next year

[–] thetreesaysbark@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

I see. Dang.

[–] jlh@lemmy.jlh.name 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Pointing to this whenever the conservatives in Sweden say we need to raise prices and hire more ticket cops in order to increase ridership

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

How does that logic make any sense? You need less barriers for rides hip, not more.

[–] jlh@lemmy.jlh.name 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You're telling me.

The argument that they make is that more ticket sales -> more funding -> better service -> more riders

But honestly they spent so much on enforcement, it eroded the funding argument, and having to pay for €100 tickets every month, paying increased fines, and pass through slow ticket gates erodes the better service argument.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 month ago

I guess that makes a little sense, but public transport should be an expense, not a business.

[–] synapse1278@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

It sucks the price is increasing. 58€/month is still cheaper than what my Jobticket (sponsored by my employer) use to cost, it was over 100€/month.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 2 points 1 month ago

ITT: Germans complaining that everything is not perfect and incapable of appreciating all the good the Deutschland ticket has done.