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[–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

If u make privacy illegal then only criminals will have privacy.

[–] horseloaf@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

If u make privacy illegal then only cops, spooks, governments, billionaires and other criminals will have privacy. FTFY.

[–] shiftymccool@programming.dev 1 points 4 months ago

Yep, you just said the same thing with more words 😁

[–] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

If u make privacy illegal then only ~~cops~~ criminals, ~~spooks~~ criminals, ~~governments~~ criminals, ~~billionaires~~ criminals and other criminals will have privacy. FTFY.

FTFY.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip -1 points 4 months ago (2 children)
[–] Naich@lemmings.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You can't murder a room full of children with pgp.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I already have a chainsaw for that kind of thing, that does this have to do with guns and encryption?

[–] Naich@lemmings.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, that's the point. What do guns have to do with encryption? I could say "If you outlaw beards, only outlaws will have beards" and it will make as much sense as your original post. I appreciate that you have a weird fetish for violence but you don't have to shoe-horn it into every conversation.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Privacy and guns can be used for defense. Beards generally don't affect that (though Alexander was of a different opinion and made his soldiers shave so that they couldn't be grabbed by the beard ; I think same was the reasoning for Roman soldiers shaving their beards and other hair).

[–] Naich@lemmings.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You can’t murder a room full of children with pgp.

I'll just say it again in the hope that it might dawn on you that the two things are not even remotely similar enough that you can say "this also works for guns".

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I've already described specifically how they are similar, it might dawn on you that repetition doesn't strengthen an argument. Not hopeful though.

[–] Naich@lemmings.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

What? That they can both be used for defense? Name something that couldn't ever be used for defense. Your comparison is pointless because the only trait they share is one which is also shared by pretty much everything else on the planet. Like beards, to bring up an earlier example.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

They are both intended for defense.

[–] Hammerheart@programming.dev 1 points 4 months ago

I think it's safe to say guns are an offensive weapon

[–] dogsnest@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Only in the only country that believes that.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip -1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

What? You think criminals don't have guns in yours?

By the way, a country can't believe anything, it's an artificial concept on a map.

[–] RogueBanana@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Unironically yes. Out of 1000 crime news I hear about here, maybe one of them is about gun violence. Also I have never ever heard about mass killings here like USA seems to have every week.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip -1 points 4 months ago

Look up stats, because what's reported in media is always quite different.

[–] dogsnest@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So is obtuseness and pedantry.

Sorry I made you fail.

[–] Mubelotix@jlai.lu 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You can be anti-guns but he is still right. Criminals do have weapons where I live, even though it's illegal. Fortunately, we don't have many criminals since the country is rich

[–] dogsnest@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I really don't think you need to mansplain shit.

[–] Mubelotix@jlai.lu 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I don't care if you are a woman, I didn't even know. Also, you are the one being wrong

[–] dogsnest@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] Mubelotix@jlai.lu 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You already said that to the other guy, and it was already ridiculous back then

[–] dogsnest@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] Mubelotix@jlai.lu 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You should ask chatgpt, it would provide better and more constructive comments

[–] dogsnest@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago

The voice of experience, I see.

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago

And on Tuesday, 37 Members of Parliament signed an open letter to the Council of Europe urging legislators to reject Chat Control.

"We explicitly warn that the obligation to systematically scan encrypted communication, whether called 'upload-moderation' or 'client-side scanning,' would not only break secure end-to-end encryption, but will to a high probability also not withstand the case law of the European Court of Justice," the MEPs said. "Rather, such an attack would be in complete contrast to the European commitment to secure communication and digital privacy, as well as human rights in the digital space."

I hope to fuck this shit won't get passed

[–] BananaTrifleViolin@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Regardless of the supposed motivations, this is mass surveillance on a scale never seen before. The EU wants to become China 2.0.

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 1 points 4 months ago

Signal SLAMS EU bill!

Can we get a single journalist that can write a headline?

[–] catalog3115@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

It's highly likely that these laws will be passed because more people are voting for right wing leaders in EU, Right wing heavily supports this. If EU sets the example soon the whole world will follow.

[–] disconnectikacio@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago (4 children)

they call themselves "right wing", but they arent. See here in orbanistan (hungary) orban and all his comrades were commie state party functionals, or were at least the part in the commie youth organization. Also they vote down 23 times (as of now) the disclosure of the commie state party agent files, serving commie dictatorships like PRC, and the soviet union mourner putin, etc. Just like AFD in germany, etc...

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I can't take anyone who says "commie" seriously. It's like hearing an adult say they need to go potty.

[–] disconnectikacio@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago

Why? They never been communist, because they never believed in anything except of greed, authority. Thats why they are just commies

[–] volodya_ilich@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago

Communism is when you perpetuate the class relations of your country in an authoritarian manner. Oh wait, or was it backwards...

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk -1 points 4 months ago

Right wingers and authoritarians get mixed up a lot.

[–] Natanael@slrpnk.net -1 points 4 months ago

Authoritarians all of them

[–] Max_P@lemmy.max-p.me 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If it's client side then pedos will just strip it out and keep on going. It's a giant waste of time.

[–] 30p87@feddit.de 0 points 4 months ago

No actual pedo uses normal chat apps, especially not unencrypted ones. They use Tor and services routing through Tor, like Session. And the EU can't do anything against that.