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[–] bloodfart@lemmy.ml -2 points 9 hours ago

If you want to vote third party but don’t like the greens, the party for socialism and liberation is running de la Cruz on a platform of Palestinian statehood!

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It was nice to see the World News community finally realize that the DNC has been doing nothing but shooting themselves in the foot for a year.

Maybe this community will finally catch on and connect the dots between a random ass 3rd party getting blamed for stealing votes away from the Democrats, and Democrats not actually meeting the core demands of their constituency.

Or maybe not....

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Maybe someday we'll have people blame the DNC for choosing to back unpopular opinions/policies losing the popularity contest against "Literal Evil Fascist with the Playbook of How To Do Evil 101, but Fox News said it's cool".

But instead we need a new scapegoat for when Greens come in 4th place to the Libertarian's "I just wanna date this 14 year old with my rifle and say the N-word out loud without backlash."

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[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 123 points 1 day ago (24 children)

!rcv@ponder.cat

Any third party that's telling you to vote for them under FPTP, but isn't heavily promoting RCV to fix the system, isn't trying to win. They're trying to spoil the FPTP election.

RCV is already law in a surprisingly large number of places. It may change the majority in the house in this upcoming election, because the difference in vote-counting within the two states that use it for US congressional elections might be enough to change the razor-thin outcome.

RCV is on the ballot, in one form or another, in 7 states and DC this year. Go vote. You might be able to fix the system, and move toward the future that all the people in this thread who are being vocal about Jill Stein say that they want. Remember back when marijuana was illegal? That changed. This can change too, and it would be glorious, for a lot of important goals that a lot of people claiming to support Jill Stein claim they're supportive of. It would be practical and realistic. It would work.

Anyone in this thread who is saying Jill Stein is extremely important, but haven't been saying anything about ranked choice voting or changing the voting system to make third parties realistic: Why? What's your goal, why did you make that decision about your priorities?

The answer is obvious, of course. But it's fun to ask.

@anticolonialist@lemmy.world, why?

I'll add more @s as more people pipe up. They always do.

Register and vote, for RCV as well as for Harris. We have 25 more days.

https://www.vote.org/

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[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 60 points 1 day ago (64 children)

Jill Stein is polling at litterally less than measurable numbers.

https://poll.qu.edu/poll-release?releaseid=3913&stream=top

"Undecided" represents at least twice the voters Stein appears to be garnering.

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[–] zephorah@lemm.ee 69 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

2016 Michgan election results

Michigan 2016

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago (9 children)

Can't believe Johnson handed the election to Trump like that.

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[–] sorval_the_eeter@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Its the genocide thats the problem-- Steins numbres are small.. And Jill Stein owes the dems nothing, she can run if she wants. Thats what democracy is about. So the new republic can suck it.

[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee 10 points 21 hours ago

Everything you said is true. But it has nothing to do with the article. It's about how her campaign seems to be more a grift than pushing green policies, and aimed at taking votes from Harris in swing states than actually trying to win any election.

She can obviously do what she wants, but it doesn't appear she is being genuine.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 0 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Okay, the dems no longer support Israel, now they will get smeared as hateful Antisemites.

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[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 56 points 1 day ago (21 children)

"Once noble party" - ffs.

Jill Stein is a bad actor in this election, she understands how the electoral college works and she understands she's weakening the democratic party position. But let's not blame shift - the Democrats could be much better on climate change then they are today and if they were better Stein's BS wouldn't have such an easy time attracting voters. I dislike the title posing it as "Stein may hand Trump the whitehouse again."

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 48 points 1 day ago (13 children)

Even if the argument about getting X% of votes was true, the states to campaign heavy in would be the deep blue/red states. Especially since they tend to get ignored by candidates.

Instead she sticks to the states where <30k votes could decide the election and the market is saturated with the most expensive ad costs

It's blantantly obvious what's she's doing.

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[–] zephorah@lemm.ee 36 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

2016 Pennsylvania results

Pennsylvania 2016

I can’t post more than one image because Lemmy/Memmy makes the images fall apart into a 2 mile long scroll.

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