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[–] Talisker@lemmy.world -2 points 1 hour ago

Preemptively rolling out that “Democrats losing is the fault of everyone except the Democrats” narrative, again.

Must have seen the MN polling numbers…

Jill Stein has my vote! Seriously, she took it. Can someone help me get it back?

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 23 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Note: Jill is literally paid to run as a spoiler, and if you look at her actual policies, lot of transphobia, ablism, and support for pseudoscience

[–] Soup@lemmy.cafe 9 points 7 hours ago

This shouldn’t surprise anyone considering her source.

[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

guys it's not that hard, all we have to do is to not vote for still jein.

[–] beejboytyson@lemmy.world 11 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

... there were people voting for stein?

i would hope not, but idk why else you would be running lmao

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 6 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (3 children)

Kamala Harris can win over all of those Jill Stein voters with a single sentence.

Stupid Jill Stein's entire campaign is based on the premise that Democrats would keep a genocide going for an entire year into election season.

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Let’s completely forget everything but the election for this hypothetical. Do you think Harris coming out and saying “I will immediately stop supporting Israel” she will automatically win? Or do you think it’s more likely the Jewish community would condemn her words and move over to the rubber stamp in chief who would give Israel even more support with fewer conditions? (Ignoring the personal favors he asks for of course.)

Yall act like this is a simple black and white issue, when it’s obviously not. Even when you boil it down to “just” the election.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Yes an arms embargo net her an easy win.

The Jewish community does not care about sending infinite weapons to Netanyahu.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 hours ago

Dumbest shit I've ever read

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Ah yes, in a world where simply protesting the murder of tens of thousands of Palestinians is branded “antisemitism,” directly preventing military aid to Israel will somehow be perfectly fine.

Please, tell me more about this magical fairytale land you live in, it certainly seems a hell of a lot more likable than reality.

[–] MisterScruffy@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 hours ago

Netanyahu is campaigning for Trump. Coming out against a foreign pm because that pm is helping your election competitor shouldn't be that difficult to pull off.

[–] BMTea@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Oooh, so Kamala is playing 5D chess and will do an about-face on Biden's genocide policy when she enters office? Because her past record is so stellar on this issue? Like that time she had wine from an illegal settlement served at the White House? She and her boss wipe their ass with the rule of all and all pretensions of even basic human morality on an international level, but she's not Trump!

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Strawman much? Or are you arguing with voices I can’t hear?

Edit: Y’know what? I’m curious. How do you envision her coming out against Israel going? Let’s hear your version of how things would go, because I can’t hear these arguments as anything other than “I support Trump.”

So please, enlighten me as to how this would go down without Trump being elected and making the situation worse.

[–] SquirtleHermit@lemmy.world 6 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

Republicans hate this one simple trick!

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 3 points 11 hours ago

They really do, oddly enough, for multiple reasons.

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[–] bloodfart@lemmy.ml -1 points 7 hours ago

If you want to vote third party but don’t like the greens, the party for socialism and liberation is running de la Cruz on a platform of Palestinian statehood!

[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

jesus christ this thread is a fucking nightmare bro

i feel like i've done three pounds of ketamine just scrolling through these comments.

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 21 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (3 children)

I don't understand why it is taken for granted that if Stein wasn't a candidate the people who vote for her would be voting for the Democrats instead. Just as likely they would not vote at all or vote for some other protest candidate.

[–] SSJMarx@lemm.ee 10 points 19 hours ago (7 children)

I saw some stats on this in another thread, most third party voters wouldn't be voting if their candidate wasn't on the ballot, and most third party voters benefit Democrats down ballot. The spoiler candidate logic has always been sketchy.

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