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(Yes, of course I know that's not the Enterprise-D and that TNG came out in 1986, but you try making a better debunking joke.)

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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

The special effects were simply building practical rockets and sending astronauts to the actual moon to make it look unscripted.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago

My god! They fooled us all by faking the moon landing with an actual moon landing!

[–] NutWrench@lemmy.world 30 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Also keep in mind that the astronauts communicated with Earth by radio. Anyone with even 1920s radio technology would have figured out that the astronauts weren't broadcasting from the Moon.

We were in the middle of a cold war with the soviets back in the 1960s. Proving the moon landing was fake would have been the propaganda coup of the century for them. What possible reason would they have to stay quiet about that?

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If we could fake the moon landings, we also could have faked the Soviet Union.

[–] Nomecks@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 days ago

We've always been at war with Eurasia

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

We were in the middle of a cold war with the soviets back in the 1960s. Proving the moon landing was fake would have been the propaganda coup of the century for them. What possible reason would they have to stay quiet about that?

That's always been my number one reason why the moon landing was definitely not faked. The Soviets never caught wind of it between 1969 and 1992? Come on.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Plus we left retroreflectors on the moon, that we can shoot laser beams at and get a return bean back.

its used to measure the drift of the moon away from earth.

the lunar reoglith is not reflective enough to bounce a signal back (and its been tested to death)

[–] Omgpwnies@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

We know it reflects light, so that just tells me we haven't used a big enough laser yet :p

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[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 64 points 3 days ago (12 children)

Faking the moon landing would have been a massive coverup requiring the cooperation of at least one foreign nation. (Australia, because of Parkes)

During the Nixon administration. Nixon couldn't even cover up one little burglary.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

It would have required so much work it'd be easier just to land on the moon.

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[–] Mohaim@lemmy.blahaj.zone 95 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (6 children)

My favorite debunking is an old YouTube video called "moon hoax not" where a filmmaker explains that the due to technology limits of the time, faking the multi-hour live broadcasts in slow-motion, which millions of people were watching, would be impossible without there being telltale signs of it being spliced film (the splicing, film grain, etc.). Since slow-mo video (distinct from film; TV broadcasts were video) at the time could not play back more than a few seconds of footage, at most, it would have to be high-speed film played back at normal speed. Assuming you could find or make a high-speed camera fit to task. While the first landing had awful video quality, later missions had much higher quality and the film fakery would be impossible to completely hide. People these days massively overestimate the video (and film) technology that was available in 1969. (IIRC. It's been years since I've last rewatched it.)

Edit: TL;DR: Perfectly faking the multi-hour uninterrupted video broadcasts (i.e., either inventing slow-motion video that can last hours, or perfectly passing off a multi-hour film as video) in slow-motion would have been significantly more difficult than sending humans to the moon with 1969 technology.

[–] rwtwm@feddit.uk 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] turmacar@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

That'd be it.

Honestly it's super interesting to watch even if you know the moon landings happened for the history of tech he talks about.

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 49 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Flawless 4K special effects have been available for over 100 years, but the government’s been hiding them!

Re-hoaxed :)

[–] Dragonstaff@leminal.space 2 points 1 day ago

Everyone knows the moon landing was faked at a secret soundstage on Mars!

[–] CaptainBlagbird@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago

Now this one is really concerning!

[–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I do find it amazing that it was literally easier to send humans to the moon than faking it in 1969

Like, isn't that an astonishing fact?

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Oh, I know this video!

I remember playing it for somebody, and you could tell they were trying so hard to disagree with it in their head. I imagine they still believe it was fake, but it was funny.

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[–] beliquititious@lemmy.blahaj.zone 60 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (7 children)

Fake moon landing, aliens built the pyramids why do some conspiracy theories insist on robbing humans of their monumental achievements. My guess is that people who create and share conspiracies like those are too dumb to realize that other people have different knowledge than they do.

[–] ZagamTheVile@lemmy.world 31 points 3 days ago (2 children)

It's probably because most of the people that believe these things are impossible can't even chew with their mouths closed.

[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago

Ah yes, I see you've met the muskboys.

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[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 26 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Wasn't 2001 also made at that time? As I recall, that was incredibly realistic (mostly), far more so than a cheap TV show

(Not saying that 2001 is proof, just that ToS isn't a great comparison)

[–] SSJMarx@lemm.ee 26 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

2001 came out in 1968, so a year before the actual moon landing. As long as you were economical with your shots, you could definitely do some realistic-looking microgravity and spaceships with 60s tech - what you couldn't do with 60s tech, as a commenter above pointed out, was a long flat shot of people moving convincingly on the lunar surface, which is what the Apollo films show.

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[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

To be fair star trek was impressive for the time

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Most of the time anyway...

In my opinion the rough edges give the show charm and character, theres a certain magic to imperfection

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