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[–] AceSLS@ani.social 197 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

Lmao, women are literally streaming in mini bikinis but VTubers must cover their fucking hips

Fuck Twitch and Amazon for their inhuman work conditions

[–] PunchingWood@lemmy.world 94 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (5 children)

A while ago I got hit in the recommended streams with a random stream of some girl with absolutely gigantic milkers in only bodypaint. Probably got away with it as some sort of 'art' project, despite the body paint being quite bad and she was practically doing nothing on stream at all, it was just simps throwing money at her for being on screen.

Other times there's just girls in the 'Just chatting' category in tight spandex, leaving nothing to imagination, that are in suggestive poses and flaunting their gigantic tits and asses on screen. Also doing practically nothing but just posing and thanking donations.

Twitch really has weird ass rules when it comes to this shit.

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 60 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Twitch doesn't want to get rid of it, it's a huge moneymaker.

They just want plausible deniability to keep advertisers, sponsors, and regulatory bodies happy enough. That's why the rules are so weird.

[–] PunchingWood@lemmy.world 22 points 3 days ago

It's the same with OnlyFans. It wasn't even meant as a porn/sexual medium, but like well over 90% is probably just that.

I just don't hope Twitch let's it roam wild, they just need to man up and call it what it is, it's porn and sexual content, give them their own category and keep them there.

[–] Grangle1@lemm.ee 8 points 3 days ago

I'm sure we remember not too long ago when rather than go with what the sponsors, advertisers, etc wanted and rein that shit in, they loosened the rules and Twitch essentially became a straight up porn site for two days. And it was already bad before then. It's probably only the plausible deniability preventing them from going back to loosening the rules and raking in the camgirl money. Disappointing but absolutely not surprising that Twitch would probably make more money from that than from the ads, sponsorships and so on they get now.

[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

You had me at huge moneymaker.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 43 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I hate that this system works so well to separate stupid horny men from their money, thus creating huge incentives for more and more women to game it.

[–] felykiosa@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 days ago

Its not even good at it , like chaturbate have really cool stream ( a part of the evident porn) . twitch horny stream is so dumb

[–] HungryJerboa@lemmy.ca -3 points 3 days ago

The Patriarchy strikes again!

[–] mindaika@lemmy.dbzer0.com 38 points 3 days ago (4 children)

On one hand, I think that kind of shit is lame AF, but on the other hand if someone wanted pay me $200/hr to paint my hog green and vacuum in green Luigi hat, you know I’d be down

[–] FilthyShrooms@lemmy.world 22 points 3 days ago

I'm not mad at the ladies gaming the system, I'm just mad at the system.

[–] quafeinum@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago

Do you have an only fans?

[–] rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Vacuuming is too out of character, you need to get under the sink and do some plumbing.

EDIT: Scratch that, I just remembered Luigi's Mansion. Vacuuming is canon after all!

[–] DancingBear@midwest.social 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Luigi? That’s weird. What about Wario?

[–] JDPoZ@lemmy.world 24 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Oh man, I hate it when that happens...

...I mean... you should probably share the streamer's Twitch handle so we can all avoid seeing those kinds of videos, since that would be terrible to be forced to see something that terrible.

[–] PunchingWood@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

Lol I knew the reference without the link haha

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

One streamer had a butthole cam. Like, low angle cam pointed directly at her asshole.

[–] DancingBear@midwest.social 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That sounds terrible. What’s the link so I can block it

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Sadly don't remember. I found it on LSF or something similar because the clip was another streamer that had to reach out and tell her to switch bikinis because he could literally see her butthole lines. Apparently it was a "twitch meta" that titty streamers did, but it's been banned since then.

[–] Rooki@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago

They had literally a "Hot-tub" category and every time i go to twitch i can play "Twitch-Bingo" for with "streamers" with extra sexualised clothings that has 100% of their female parts in their face cam and extra points if it covers 25% of the preview image. Of course all of them not marked as NSFW so 100% child safe

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Vtubers can do that as well if they're doing it in the right category. It just so happens that they almost never did in the past and kept breaking TOS. The rules are not new at all by the way, just worded more clearly because some users keep throwing fits. Twitch is a train wreck for all sorts of shortcomings and bullshittery, but this isn't really news.

[–] CrazyLikeGollum@lemmy.world 99 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Well, that's kind of shitty. I know those models can run up to five figures, and if those rules aren't enforced uniformly across the board for everyone then it does just seem like they're targeting a particular class of creator.

As a side note, I find it funny that the article refers to then as "AI models" when no AI is typically involved.

[–] Dasnap@lemmy.world 68 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Saying it's AI even when it's completely irrelevant makes it modern and cool though.

[–] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 32 points 3 days ago (2 children)

“AI” is the new “Space-Age”.

[–] PunchingWood@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

It's like how they slapped 'Smart' on every tech product in the past decade. Even devices that are dumb as fuck are called 'Smart' devices. Words entirely lost their meaning because of advertisers abusing trendy words.

Even 'AI' is being abused. I always thought of AI as artificial consciousness, an unnatural and created-by-humans self-aware and self-thinking being. Most of the AI products now are just search engines, image generators and apps being programmed to do something. In fact stuff like ChatGPT would've made more sense to actually be called 'Smart' search engines instea of 'AI'. They might be technological achievements, but they're not AI.

[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org 8 points 3 days ago

It's like how they slapped 'Smart' on every tech product in the past decade.

When I was a teen, it was "e"-everything. E-mail, e-pets, e-bologna, e-games, e-surance, whatever. eBay is a relic of this era.

[–] hedgehog@ttrpg.network 2 points 3 days ago

It's like how they slapped 'Smart' on every tech product in the past decade. Even devices that are dumb as fuck are called 'Smart' devices.

I’m not a big fan of “Smart” as a marketing term, either, but “Automatable” doesn’t exactly roll off the tongue, and “Connected” doesn’t really have the same appeal. That said, “smart” was used pretty consistently to refer to devices that could be controlled as part of a “smart home.” It wasn’t supposed to refer to a device that itself was intelligent, though.

I always thought of AI as artificial consciousness, an unnatural and created-by-humans self-aware and self-thinking being.

Sounds like you’re thinking of AGI (artificial general intelligence) or that your understanding is based off sci fi as opposed to the academic discipline/field of research, which has been around since the 1950s.

And yes, marketing is often inaccurate… but almost every instance I’ve seen where they say they’re using AI, they were.

In fact stuff like ChatGPT would've made more sense to actually be called 'Smart' search engines instea of 'AI'.

IMO “Smart” would be more misleading than “AI,” even if “Smart” didn’t have an existing, unrelated meaning. I do think we could use better words - AI is such a broad category that it doesn’t say much to call a product “AI-powered.” Stable Diffusion and Llama use completely different types of AI, for example. But people broadly recognize the term (even if they don’t understand it properly) and the same can’t be said for terms like “LLM.”

They might be technological achievements, but they're not AI.

You’re illustrating the AI effect - “discounting of the behavior of an artificial-intelligence program as not "real" intelligence.” AI is used in a ton of different ways that you likely don’t ever think about or even notice.

I recommend reading over at least the introduction to the Artificial Intelligence article on Wikipedia before proclaiming that something that fits cleanly into the definition of AI isn’t AI.

[–] Emerald@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

If you ask me, we're still in the space age. Can't wait for New Glenn's maiden launch, hopefully this year

[–] SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org 5 points 3 days ago

Could also be that who wrote the article doesn't know much on the matter.

[–] CodeInvasion@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The technical definition of AI in academic settings is any system that can perform a task with relatively decent performance and do so on its own.

The field of AI is absolutely massive and includes super basic algorithms like Dijsktra’s Algorithm for finding the shortest path in a graph or network, even though a 100% optimal solution is NP-Complete, and does not yet have a solution that is solveable in polynomial time. Instead, AI algorithms use programmed heuristics to approximate optimal solutions, but it’s entirely possible that the path generated is in fact not optimal, which is why your GPS doesn’t always give you the guaranteed shortest path.

To help distinguish fields of research, we use extra qualifiers to narrow focus such as “classical AI” and “symbolic AI”. Even “Machine Learning” is too ambiguous, as it was originally a statistical process to finds trends in data or “statistical AI”. Ever used excel to find a line of best fit for a graph? That’s “machine learning”.

Albeit, “statistical AI” does accurately encompass all the AI systems people commonly think about like “neural AI” and “generative AI”. But without getting into more specific qualifiers, “Deep Learning” and “Transformers” are probably the best way to narrow down what most people think of when they here AI today.

[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 9 points 3 days ago

Sir this is a Wendy's.

[–] InfiniWheel@lemmy.one 11 points 3 days ago

Same with people believing all vtubers are AI chatbots or, to a lesser extent, that all female vtubers are just men with voice changers.

Like a minute or two of looking up either on any search engine would clear things up. But hell if it does show how little the average internet user seems to know about AI or audio editing. A lot of people seem to think technology is just straight up magic.

[–] Mojave@lemmy.world -5 points 3 days ago

It might not be generative AI, but it is still primitive AI that drives the mapping of the physical streamer's body to the animated cartoon body

[–] hal_5700X@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 days ago

Classic Twitch.

[–] kaboom36@ani.social 8 points 3 days ago

I like how dextero has scarle for the thumbnail, a vtuber who has never and likely never will stream on twitch

That ai thing too, yeesh