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Linux is a family of open source Unix-like operating systems based on the Linux kernel, an operating system kernel first released on September 17, 1991 by Linus Torvalds. Linux is typically packaged in a Linux distribution (or distro for short).

Distributions include the Linux kernel and supporting system software and libraries, many of which are provided by the GNU Project. Many Linux distributions use the word "Linux" in their name, but the Free Software Foundation uses the name GNU/Linux to emphasize the importance of GNU software, causing some controversy.

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[–] Deckweiss@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Don't panic, thats just me running it on PC, laptop, worklaptop, pinenote, pinephone, steamdeck and in multiple VMs for experimentation. (and don't forget my randomized fingerprinting setup in the browser)

[–] eugenia@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago

Linux also surpassed 10% in my country, Greece (10.72%).

I prepared a couple of old laptops I had around recently, to gift to my niece and cousin, and I put Debian with XFce in both of them. Worked great. And I think that's why Linux is big in Greece. Consider that when someone buys a car here, they use it until the end of its life. Very rarely they sell cars to get something new. The average car is 15 years old in Greece. I think that's the deal with old laptops and computers too: people try to extend the lives of their machines.

[–] velox_vulnus@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] simple@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago

Not surprising considering just how much India is running on old hardware. I wouldn't be surprised if a big chunk of laptops there don't even support win11.

[–] const_void@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I've never understood how this is good for Linux. Why is having more users so important?

[–] markus99@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

More users means there is more interest from private companies to reach these users and to port their software/products to Linux. Ie Adobe, Games, AutoCAD Suit, etc.

[–] const_void@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

But why do we want more proprietary software running on Linux? Wouldn't we be recreating the same situation that Windows has?

Edit: Why downvote me instead of replying with a reason why I'm "wrong" or discussing further? Is Lemmy turning into Reddit already?

[–] kbal@fedia.io 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It's already at 112% on my desktop.

[–] crispy_kilt@feddit.de 0 points 8 months ago

I use Debian btw

[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Haven't we celebrated 3% just a few months ago?

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

You can set it to go back to 2009. Apparently it hit 3% in Q3 2023. And apparently Windows has steadily been trending downward from 95% to 73% since 2009, which is wild to me. I find it hard to believe that that isn't due to other factors like increased smartphone use over desktops.

[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

There's separate market shares for mobile devices, and combined as well.

Choosing all platforms we currently get:
Linux - 1.54%
Unknown - 2.42%
OS X - 5.87%
iOS - 17.82%
Windows - 27.39%
Android - 43.74%

[–] KISSmyOS@feddit.de 0 points 8 months ago

Android is Linux, too.

[–] jfx@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 8 months ago (3 children)

How on earth can people stand using Windows full time? Everything I'm on a Microsoft product I feel claustrophobic!

[–] Grofit@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Stuff just works on windows, I have a proxmox box with some Linux vms to run containers and I've tried several times over the last 20 years to move to Linux on my main pc but there are just too many faffy bits.

I really dislike what windows has become, it's bloat ware that's getting worse and worse, but I begrudgingly use it as I can be productive, the moment I can be as productive in Linux I'm off of windows, but even simple things like drivers are often not as good, lots of commercial software has barebones or no Linux support, there are many different package managers (on one hand great) but some have permission problems due to sandboxing when you need something like your IDE to have access to the dotnet package, also as a developer building apps/libs for Linux is a nightmare.

For example if I make an app for Windows I build a single binary, same for mac os, for Linux it's the Wild west, varying versions of glibc various versions of gtk and that's the simpler stuff.

Anyway I REALLY WANT to like Linux and move away from windows to it, but every time I try its hours/days of hoop jumping before I just end up going back to windows and waiting for windows to annoy me so much I try again.

(just to be clear the annoyances I have with windows are it's constant ad/bloat ware, it's segregation of settings and duplication of things, it constantly updating and forcing you to turn off all their nonsense AGAIN)

[–] BitingChaos@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Uh, most apps are still for Windows. That's why so many people use it.

If you tell someone to use an alternative OS, but then they are left on their own to run alternative versions of apps that don't work the same, forced to give up features they are use to, or run dozens of different programs through Wine or Proton or emulation or virtualization or whatever, JUST BECAUSE "Microsoft bad", they're going to laugh at you and go right back to Windows.

It's taken Linux 30(?) years to make it to 4%, and a lot of that is recent because of games. It's still a niche platform.

[–] muelltonne@feddit.de 0 points 7 months ago

Most people are not really using the OS. All they do is starting the webbrowser and that's it. They need input & sound from the OS, but that's it.

[–] crashoverride@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

What's the chance that these are actual regular people doing this?

[–] Xanthrax@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

I downloaded Ubuntu recently. Don't hurt me

[–] PuddingFeeling907@lemmy.ca 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The Linux phone has hit 0.01% oooof

I'm calling to arms linux desktop users to dip their toes into this space as we need all the support we can get

[–] suppenloeffel@feddit.de 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

As much as I'd like to use a Linux phone, it's simply not feasible for almost everybody at the moment.

What do people user their phone for?

  • Private conversations
  • Banking
  • All kind of apps

Linux phones, at the moment, are way behind Android/iOS in terms of security and, since privacy requires security, also in privacy.

Even stock Android has so many more security features, that it's not even close. Verified boot, exploit mitigation, (working) app sandboxing and so on. Not even speaking of specialized projects like GrapheneOS.

Even if the app ecosystem was there and the OS mature, I'd never run my banking through a Linux phone at the moment.

[–] AProfessional@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Also its just hostile hardware. I can run Linux on any PC I own. Only a few phones support installing it and have bad drivers even if.

[–] suppenloeffel@feddit.de 0 points 8 months ago

Yes, but in fairness: The same is true for iOS or GrapeneOS, though that's for valid reasons.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

2024 : The year of the Linux desktop

[–] ominouslemon@lemm.ee 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] sverit@feddit.de 0 points 7 months ago

MY BODY IS READY