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[–] 555_1@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (3 children)

But who would run? Harris? She can’t beat Trump. The Dems would have to pull another Obama out of their hat, and I don’t think one exists. Bernie’s too old for another go. No one likes Warren. Pete is gay (too many haters).

Newsom? Whitmer? Klobuchar? Booker?

[–] pandapoo@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

That's what primaries are for.

Unfortunately, Biden and the DNC didn't feel that aspect of party democracy was convenient for them this year, so...well, here we are.

[–] 555_1@lemmy.world -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The primaries aren’t going to help if there isn’t a person who can beat Trump.

[–] pandapoo@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Trump isn't some mythical Boogeyman who only Biden can beat. That's not my gut feeling, that's what the recent electoral results and polling data shows us.

But putting that aside, that doesn't mean the DNC should be rigging primaries because they think they know best. That's how Trump won in 2016, and why we just witnessed Biden sun downing on a debate stage.

[–] 555_1@lemmy.world -4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They aren’t rigging the primary.

[–] pandapoo@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Correct, they rigged it: past tense.

I don't mean by literally stuffing ballots, but via mostly boring administrative and bureaucratic maneuvering. Although, some state Democratic parties did actually cancel their Presidential primaries entirely, which frankly should be illegal.

Nothing I'm saying is breaking news. This was covered at the time, and has seen a small resurgence in coverage since the debate.

I think The Lever actually just republished the reporting they ran at the time.

[–] 555_1@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago
[–] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

See, this confuses me. I'm not saying you're wrong, I mean there must be a reason Biden came out on top in the 2020 primaries, but all the time liberals tell me they would vote for a houseplant over Donald Trump. Literally any Democratic candidate would pass the test of not being Trump, so why couldn't any candidate win?

[–] 555_1@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Solid blue will vote solid blue. The election isn’t determined by those people. It’s determined by swing states. Lots of people just don’t vote if they don’t like their options. Those votes matter.

[–] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Lots of people just don’t vote if they don’t like their options.

Do you think those voters like their options now?

[–] 555_1@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Good point. Trump is gonna win.