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Democrats take aim at Jill Stein as they seek to avoid Clinton’s mistakes (www.msn.com)
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[–] abff08f4813c@j4vcdedmiokf56h3ho4t62mlku.srv.us -1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

University of Wisconsin-Madison Elections Research Center Director Barry Burden ...
predicted Stein may not earn as many votes in 2024 as she did in 2016 when she "benefitted from progressives's dissatisfaction with the political establishment," particularly now that demographic appears "newly energized by the Harris campaign."

So the article points out both a hope for Harris supporters and also a valid counterargument to their strategy of trying to keep Stein off the ballot.

"This election is different than 2016," a longtime Michigan Democratic activist told the Washington Examiner. "Both Stein and West are threats to Harris in Michigan because they are appealing to Arab American voters upset over the Biden administration’s Middle East policy to vote for them rather than Harris."

"Studies of Stein voters show that many of them would have not voted or would have supported Trump had the Green Party candidate not been on the ballot," Burden said. "Memories of 2016 also ignore that the Libertarian ticket drew even more votes than Stein and probably hurt Trump more than Stein hurt Clinton."

I.e. in other words, instead of trying to keep Stein off the ballot (and offending these folks into staying home and not voting) Dems would be better off actually trying to win these folks votes by engaging with them and trying to give them what they want.

So again, hope for the Harris campaign, especially with the recent endorsement of Emgage Action, that these voters can still be won over at the last minute.

[–] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -4 points 4 days ago

instead of trying to keep Stein off the ballot (and offending these folks into staying home and not voting) Dems would be better off actually trying to win these folks votes by engaging with them and trying to give them what they want.

Exactly!

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (4 children)

In the forty-eight days this account has been active, it has made three thousand six hundred and ninety-eight submissions to Lemmy, which is one on average every eighteen minutes and forty-two seconds.

You're slowing down a bit buddy!

[–] thallamabond@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I'd love to see this person maintain this energy after the election. I seriously doubt it.

[–] abff08f4813c@j4vcdedmiokf56h3ho4t62mlku.srv.us 1 points 4 days ago

In fairness, there won't be much to post on in this area of topics once the next President-elect becomes the next sitting President.

What I'll be keeping an eye on is if this person posts after the election but before the inauguration, say regarding the news on recount events and such. Remember how long Stein stayed in the news back in 2016 because of the recounts?

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Yeah I have a feeling that they are going to disappear after November 5th.

[–] IphtashuFitz@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not to worry. They’ll reappear a few months before the next election cycle.

[–] LovingHippieCat@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

And best of all, almost all of them (the posts) are on communities that they made themselves.

[–] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

And best of all, almost all of them (the posts) are on communities that they made themselves.

Which have nothing to do with Jill Stein. The most posts I make are to my Socialist communities.

And since you seem to disregard the communities I made myself, then you don't have to worry about anything I have to say. So see how that works? :)

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Because you deleted your Jill Stein stan cums.

[–] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

But wait, you thought I'm gonna vote for Jill Stein. Why would I delete that community if I were gonna vote for her?

[–] MediaBiasFactChecker@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago

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[–] jonne@infosec.pub -1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Clinton's mistake was campaigning in Texas instead of Michigan, not 'not punching left enough'.

If you want to win over green voters, maybe run on some of the popular things that the greens are running on instead of guilt tripping.

[–] pooperNickel@lemm.ee 0 points 1 week ago

If you want a third party to not get hate, maybe don't vote for them and ask them not to be so horrible.