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  • KDE Plasma 6 will require users to double-click on files and folders to open them by default.
  • This change is controversial for those familiar with single-click behavior in KDE Plasma.
  • Click behavior in KDE Plasma 6 is configurable, allowing users to choose between single-click and double-click.

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This is one of the first things I always tweak in KDE, so I love this change, but I'm curious how others feel.

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[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

My parents found single-click much more intuitive, because everything else (web browser, phone) uses single-click.

[–] GroteStreet@aussie.zone 1 points 9 months ago

My parents still double click everything on their mobile...

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 1 points 9 months ago (4 children)

For all those single-click fans:

  • how do you quickly rename a file?
  • how do you even drag-drop instead of opening stuff?
  • how do you select files?
  • how do you live?

Saying "well kids use web stuff and Android and dont know what a single click is" is basically neglecting the use of a mouse. I love at least 3 buttons, hovering and fast clicks.

[–] Drito@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I don't use KDE but I suppose the click is detected on button release, not during the press. It should adress all these questions.

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 0 points 9 months ago

This is the only way that makes sense.

[–] cygon@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Q1: Select (see Q3) + F2

Q2: Same way as double-click people. A file only opens if I click, not when I press the mouse button and drag the file around.

Q3: I draw a small selection frame over it, or press the control key when clicking (I have the hand there any, especially if my next input will be Ctrl+C/X and Ctrl+V

Q4: I just do. Sometimes I relax by playing shooters with the "invert mouse" option turned on :D

I have never had a cell phone or smart phone in my life, single-click was the default when I switched to Linux, I gave it a try and I liked it.

[–] westyvw@lemm.ee 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Single click is so much better. Vastly superior.

How do I live? Without carpal tunnel.

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 0 points 9 months ago

Okay okay I give it a try

[–] Jomosoto@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)
  • Ctrl + Click, F2
  • Just drag and drop the file
  • Ctrl + Click

I prefer single click, but I agree that there are situations where double click is more convenient

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That sounds way worse than double click haha. I have set F2 to Volume (the rest is the normal F keys)

[–] optissima@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Dont know, I think F1 F2 are up and down, F3 is normal again and would be mute.

I am weird and didnt like sticky Fn keys like it is preconfigured on Thinkpads

[–] db2@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Single click is for web page links, not my computer.

[–] burgermeister@lemm.ee 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Way too easy to accidentally run a program with single click

[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It should throw up a prompt to ask, if you really want to run it. You might have disabled that...

[–] Klaymore@sh.itjust.works 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You mean... a prompt that needs a second click to run the program?

[–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yes, mine does that. Files open with one click, programs need confirmation.

[–] db2@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That seems more like and accessibility feature, like what someone with a muscle spasm disorder would find helpful.

[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I mean, yeah, muscle spasm disorder or my dumb ass absent-mindedly opening files in my download folder or Jester from HR, who doesn't know that a job application shouldn't have the executable icon. For all of us, it improves accessibility, because we don't need to be as cautious anymore.

[–] elvith@feddit.de 0 points 9 months ago

Ransomware in Windows:
You need to allow macros to read this job application

Ransomware in Linux:
You need to run chmod +x application.ods.sh to read this job application

[–] GunnarGrop@lemmy.ml 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

A day of sorrow indeed... No, joking aside. I gather most people use double click anyway, so this is a good change for that reason. I've never really understood it myself (the primary function of the left click being "select" when everywhere else it's "open" or "go to this thing"?? Alien stuff).

I'm just glad KDE listens to it's users and adapts to them. Looking forward to the release!

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 0 points 9 months ago

Its only open on things not meant for file management like web browsers, or when people use their monkey extensions as input device, instead of a mouse with 3 buttons and a scroll wheel ;D

[–] penquin@lemm.ee 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm a single click person, but I welcome this change. Those who like single click already know where to change it. This is good for new users.

[–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It makes file system navigation much faster and more pleasant imo, I'm definitely reverting this.

[–] kurumin@linux.community 0 points 9 months ago (4 children)

How do you select without executing?

[–] qaz@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

CTRL + Click

[–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

personally, I don't like the plus icons (I'd prefer it if they were simple checkboxes), so any one of:

  • (mouse-only) drag a selection box from an empty area
  • (mouse-only) right click directly, already opening the context menu to copy, cut, rename, share, etc - which is often the goal when selecting a single item.
  • Ctrl+Click
  • Shift+Click
  • (kb-only) Arrow keys
[–] penquin@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I've always used the little plus sign on icons. It's ingrained into my brain. I even did the same on windows before switching to Linux 6 years ago. Single click and the little check box on Windows.

[–] dirtbiker509@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I haven't tried it but if it works the same as a mobile OS you long click to select. Single click to execute.

Edit: apparently that's not how it works. There is a checkbox on every icon that you have to click directly on the check box to select/unselect.

[–] westyvw@lemm.ee 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Kinda disappointed actually. It's in my top ten best features if KDE. Single click is so much faster and easier. No other OS has gotten this right.

As long as they dont take it away. But since most people now won't know it's there they are unlikely to find out just how great it is.

[–] Bene7rddso@feddit.de 0 points 9 months ago

Windows had it for ages

[–] Hupf@feddit.de 0 points 9 months ago

The Year of Linux on the Desktop has finally come guys.