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They want to have a terrorist group they can fight, rather than a different type of government. Like George Bush and the original Iraqi Army before we betrayed them and turned it into ISIS.

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[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 48 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Hey it's almost like the Netanyahu government was propping up Hamas on purpose. Almost like they wanted to have them launch attacks against Israel to excuse what they are always planning to do.

[–] CrayonRosary@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

How would they do that? Suitcases of cash?

[–] PoopDelivery@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Sure, that's one out of thousands of ways. You can also prop a group up by supplying weapons, food, medicine, vehicles, information...

[–] ted@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 months ago (3 children)
[–] Wrufieotnak 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If you don't get answers for questions like that in the future, I recommend reverse image search. For example tinyeye.com found the following article with this caption for the picture:

The Israeli Iron Dome missile defense system (left) intercepts rockets (right) fired by the Hamas movement toward southern Israel from Beit Lahia in the northern Gaza Strip as seen in the sky above the Gaza Strip overnight on May 14, 2021.

[–] ted@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 months ago

Appreciate you. Thank you.

[–] alphanerd4@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So, I don’t know. Though, I have seen the picture before and have shared it under the assumption that it is some flavor of conventional rocket attack on Israel , from the right, often made up of scavenged guided missiles, and launched by groups that have in the past intermittently enjoyed support, tacit or otherwise, from the various Western powers, and the iron dome defense system on the left.

[–] nonailsleft@lemm.ee -2 points 2 months ago

Do you think the groups on the right receive(d) more support from 'Western powers' than they did from Arab states and Iran?

[–] Hellstormy@lemmy.dbzer0.com -3 points 2 months ago
[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

At this point I don't care who it is that is blowing up Israeli tanks.

As long as they are blowing up Israeli tanks, they are at least doing something right in my book.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

There is no "moderate" way of dealing with Israel.

[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

A moderate government in Palestine? Where? All I see is another group of religious extremists.

[–] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

Hamas has already agreed to no longer govern the Gaza Strip, as long as Palestinians receive liberation and a unified government can take place.

During the current war, Hamas officials have said that the group does not want to return to ruling Gaza and that it advocates for forming a government of technocrats to be agreed upon by the various Palestinian factions. That government would then prepare for elections in Gaza and the West Bank, with the intention of forming a unified government.

Both Hamas and Fatah have agreed to a Two-State solution based on the 1967 borders for decades. Oslo and Camp David were used by Israel to continue settlements in the West Bank and maintain an Apartheid, while preventing any actual Two-State solution

Sources

Oslo Accord Sources: MEE, NYT, Haaretz, AJ

The settlements represent land-grabbing, and land-grabbing and peace-making don’t go together, it is one or the other. By its actions, if not always in its rhetoric, Israel has opted for land-grabbing and as we speak Israel is expanding settlements. So, Israel has been systematically destroying the basis for a viable Palestinian state and this is the declared objective of the Likud and Netanyahu who used to pretend to accept a two-state solution. In the lead up to the last election, he said there will be no Palestinian state on his watch. The expansion of settlements and the wall mean that there cannot be a viable Palestinian state with territorial contiguity. The most that the Palestinians can hope for is Bantustans, a series of enclaves surrounded by Israeli settlements and Israeli military bases.

  • Avi Shlaim

How Avi Shlaim moved from two-state solution to one-state solution

‘One state is a game changer’: A conversation with Ilan Pappe

One State Solution, Foreign Affairs

Hamas officials should be held accountable for all war crimes committed, same as all Israeli officials. That said, there are many parallels between the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising and Gaza.

In the Shadow of the Holocaust by Masha Gessen, the situation in Gaza is compared to the Warsaw Ghettos. The comparison was also made by a Palestinian poet who was later killed by an Israeli airstrike. Adi Callai, an Israeli, has also written on the parallels in his article The Gaza Ghetto Uprising and expanded upon in his corresponding video