[Dormant] Electric Vehicles

Honestly in my opinion it is time to remove all tariffs on EVs under 25k and let anyone who wants to fill that slot in.

One essential thing bears repeating: it's not the manufacturer that bears the cost of tariffs, it's the customers. Or said another way, if BYD cars double in price in the US, it's American customers who will pay the difference.

A certain presidential candidate loves to beat that drum but consistently fails to mention that the immediate effect of new tariffs is making Americans poorer.

Give me an affordable glorified golf cart so I can zip around town and run errands and then plug it in at home and do it all again in 12 hours.

US cars wouldn't cost so much if the corporations would stop overloading the cars with features I don't want. Here's what I need: Car to go Car to charge

Here's what I want: Radio AC/heat Electric windows

The wants are not even requirements.

Yeah, as with most things in the US currently, prices are artificially inflated. They're doing this because they're trying to keep up the facade that 'these are just the new prices cuz inflation' when it's painfully apparent that it's not. They're trying to pocket as much of our money as possible and they know if competition is introduced they'll be forced to cut into those sweet sweet greedflation profits. I'm honestly never going to buy another US made vehicle if I can help it. My next vehicle will more than likely be foreign electric, and seeing this post just solidifies I've made the right decision.

it is time to remove all tariffs on EVs under 25k and let anyone who wants to fill that slot in.

How to force other car makers to build more reasonable EVs at more reasonable prices is an important question. But the answer isn't "Uyghur labor camps".

Are these cars capable of passing U.S. automotive safety rules? Or is this argument moot because they can't be legally used on U.S. roads?

American (and european) car makers can't fill that market need due to higher labour costs and stricter environmental laws.

Also the fact that the chinese government heavily subsidizes electric auto makers skews the market in favour of the chinese manufacturers.

Why did Ford dump all of the models that offered a variety of price points ?

Because they could afford to be profitable and not care about 90% of the US consumer body.

Same with GM and Dodge RAM. They quit making lots of cars to save money for themselves. And now the US has betrayed the US consumer again pushing a green agenda while maintaining OIL hegemony in vehicles for the masses.

Now we have fewer types of vehicles, lower inventory, higher prices, 10 year car loans, and restrictions on getting the green vehicles that we were encouraged to want. American Dream has become the American Delusion.

Canada is already set to implement a 100% tarrif while claiming it wants people to switch to EVs. Why are we making affordable EVs unaffordable if we want average people to make the change?

I have a BYD Seal here in Australia. You yanks are missing out

American car manufacturers refuse to fill the market need.

keep in mind, at the around 15-25k price, you run into the problem Vinfast has when they introduced themselves to the U.S market. What would an informed buyer rather do: buy a cheap new vehicle or a used premium vehicle. Chevy* backed out of making yearly bolts because demand wasnt high enough, despite the 7500 rebate would bring it down to 22k

American car manufacturers refuse to fill the market need.

That. American car companies - continuing an unbroken streak of greed, corruption, and environmental devastation - demand to have the same fate as the music industry: utter destruction. The pathetically ginormous “trucks” threatening everyone around them shall be their legacy.

Mismanagement, thy name is American automotive industry.

As much as I want cheap EVs I trust china about as far as I can throw the country with access to all the data the could get from cars in this country.

Fun fact. The ten most "American-made" cars of 2023 are:

Tesla Model Y
Tesla Model 3
Tesla Model X
Tesla Model S
Honda Passport
Volkswagen ID.4
Honda Odyssey
Acura MDX
Honda Ridgeline
Acura RDX

Hmmm, something seems to be missing... 🤔

They're talking about making Chinese drones, including hobby drones, illegal. I'd be amazed if they did that while letting a compute node on wheels drive 15k miles yearly in America gathering data and phoning home.

Tariffs are a punishment for consumers looking for affordable products, designed to help government officials and their megacorp buddies avoid competition.

Can someone explain to me the implications of China subsidizing a car, and the US putting tariffs on it?
Which country would benefit if I buy it?