Reminds me when the sport’s tracking app leaked all the secret military bases
this post was submitted on 12 Sep 2024
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Some kind of activity tracking like a Fitbit right?
You could actually see the internal layout of the base from the paths the thing recorded via GPS points.
Why?
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Grindrs gonna Grind.
But there’s so much seamen in the navy already
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Why would they need to with a whole boat load of options
IN THE NAVY...
Because that “straight” boy might turn up.
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I understand about relieving duty for the lying, but they say she had a Starlink dish and that bandwidth is to be maintained for the ship. This is a separate and distinct side channel, it wouldn't affect ship bandwidth.
Its not even that IMO this does two very bad things
- Anyone that has access to starlink can track their vessel.
- Nearby enemy vessels could easily have pin pointed them through the signals being transmitted.
She endagered her crew and lied about it.
Yea, that would be pretty damning overall and they should lead with that instead of some jabberwocky about bandwidth.
It's to explain why she did it.
Anyone that has access to starlink can track their vessel.
Regarding tracking -- and I don't know if that's the main concern here -- it won't just be the Starlink transport itself. My guess is that they're more worried about having devices connected to the Internet.
Let's say that I have a smartphone. I download an app because it's got a fun game attached. It comes up with some dialog about permissions when I installed it, which I promptly accept and forget about. This includes location permission. A month later, I get deployed, and I put my phone on the Wifi network that the nice ship IT person has set up that we all chipped in for. Yay!
So now, every now and then, maybe that app is phoning home and reporting my location using the GPS sensors in the phone. Now, maybe that game company is on the up-and-up. Maybe they're selling data to some data broker. Maybe they're in a country subject to legal requirements to turn over data to the government on demand. Maybe they're securing their own systems to a level sufficient to keep out nation-state level intelligence agencies, and maybe they aren't.
But my guess is that the Navy doesn't want to deal with those possibilities.
And that's even before potential for things like microphone permissions for a device that's on a warship.
I'm not sure how far I'd trust people to keep connected devices isolated to one of the official or pirate network.
I mean, the Navy can look into providing Starlink or a recreational net or a media server or something on the ship. I think that that's legit. But I think it's also fair that that's gotta go through channels and have their information security people pound on it.
This is a warship. In the event of a conflict, China or whoever is going to be trying to kill the people on that ship and destroy the ship, no holds barred. Like, there are gonna be real resources put on exploiting any holes that can be found. She can't just gamble with that.
We have, in the past, enjoyed major wins by compromising military naval communications in war. I'd rather not be on the receiving end of that.
And yeah, I totally get that that sucks if you're stuck on an isolated ship, but that's part of the job.
I'm okay, as an American citizen, with paying more to try to offset that. Like, in WW2, the Navy got the best meat cuts it could and stuff for subs to try make up for the fact that the submariners had rough living conditions. Maybe they can do something similar now. It said that one thing they wanted was sports scores...maybe the Navy can contract to get a dump of those broadcast, as I doubt that that's much data. But what she did wasn't the way to go about trying to provide a quality-of-life improvement for the ship.
Unless they use the same RF band and cause interference.
A lot of military SATCOM constellation are Ku and Ka band.
Ah, didn't know that