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[–] skozzii@lemmy.ca 58 points 1 month ago (4 children)

It should be criminal that so many laptops they sold the past few years have 8gb of ram.

All of those people will be looking to upgrade within a year, which is the plan...

[–] ArchRecord@lemm.ee 25 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Apple just can't resist making ridiculous margins from their customers, even when their devices do allow for upgrades to the default configuration.

For instance, with a Mac Pro, you have to pay an extra $800 to go from 64gb to 128gb of memory. For $800, you could get about 384gb of ram in 64gb sticks from a different vendor.

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

Dude, “640k is enough for anyone.”

[–] DJDarren@thelemmy.club 3 points 1 month ago

I know it’s an unpopular opinion in these parts, but honestly, 8gb is often fine for the people who are buying entry level machines.

I use a 2014 Mac mini for work, which has 8gb of soldered RAM. For sure I’d increase it to 16gb if I could, but I honestly can’t say I have any issues with it. It’s running Sonoma via OCLP like a champ.

But yeah, what Apple charge for RAM is downright criminal.

[–] errer@lemmy.world 41 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Given most of the “upgrades” are AI bullshit I’ll gladly keep my POS phone, thanks

[–] restingboredface@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Last year's 'upgrade' was a strip of titanium around the case. They seem to be running out of ideas. Definitely not worth the insane price tag.

[–] mayo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

They start to lock out old phones from new updates. We gave my grandma an old phone (an 8) but it only supports io16 so we can't enable 'senior mode'. Barely 7 year old device.

[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Barely 7 year old device

I mean yes, but also Android manufacturers are only NOW starting to catch up to Apple. Used to be you'd buy a flagship Android device and get 2 or 3 years. My Oneplus 7 Pro from 2019 (5 year old model) hasn't gotten a new major Android version since 12 which came out 3 years ago. That was my last Android phone (for now - I might go back eventually) and now with iPhones, I'll just give it to my mom when I get bored with it because she doesn't have a huge budget and the phone will keep getting updates for years.

When it comes to iPhones, Apple has never been about planned obsolescence, or at least hasn't been as bad as Android manufacturers. It's the stupid ass users who judge people based on having older models. Luckily those types are a minority of Apple users, they're just loud.

[–] mayo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I think apple is doing some planned obsolescence with their software. I'm not sure exactly when, but I've been stuck on my current iOS version for more than a year. So 5-6 years of support? It's not very long for a trillion dollar company to support one of their main product lines.

The bottom line for me is that I just don't care about this area of tech. It anti-interesting to me. Handheld computer that can make calls, we've had them for 20 years now. Very cool, mostly unchanged. The screen is better. They still break when you drop them. There are a lot of apps now.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They started that a looong time ago.

[–] mayo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

That's what I mean - start, not started. It's annoying. Should be 10 year support unless the phone actually can't do things.

How else are you suppose to identify the poors?

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 38 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Lol. Still trucking along on my iPhone X.

[–] corvi@lemm.ee 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Same actually, and a refurb m1. That’s not to say apple doesn’t use predatory tactics, and hard agree with complaining about laptops sold with 8gb of ram. I use windows, Mac, and Linux daily, and for my devices I want to last and not worry about, I go apple.

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

While OSX is very memory efficient, it’s insane that my 2011 MacBook Pro has 16GB of RAM and you can buy a laptop with half of that 13 years later.

[–] 5redie8@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

+1 for the M1, went for a refurb on a whim and it was the first time in a while I genuinely felt like I was living in the future. That thing can run Stray at more than competent frame rates and still be dead silent and lukewarm to the touch. It's like a big Steam Deck

[–] SendMePhotos@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

They made a Twitter version iPhone?!

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

XS Max here, it’s insane how long these things last. I will be upgrading this year though, cuz my partner has a 64GB phone and needs way more space for cat pictures. I’d like 120hz and USB-C!

[–] MyTurtleSwimsUpsideDown@fedia.io 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

XR for me.

Honestly the biggest issue that was pushing me to update was that my podcatcher had been getting laggier and slower to respond to remote commands when minimized. I thought it was a ram constraint, but the developer refactored the 10 year old code base last month and now it’s zippy as heck.

Now, my only issues are ones expected of any phone of its age: battery wear (repairable), RAM limiting minimized persistence of modern apps (no compelling leap until maybe this year) and storage space (manageable). I am looking forward to MagSafe, USB-C, Oled and left behind support for AirPods whenever I eventually do upgrade.

[–] DJDarren@thelemmy.club 1 points 1 month ago

I had a XR until 18 months ago, and honestly, it was still a solid device. But part of the good thing about using an iPhone is how well they hold their value, so I made the choice to sell it while it was still worth £150. Put that towards a 13 mini which will serve me nicely for a couple more years yet.

[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

“Such is the scale of advancements we’ve made, that 2024 Tim Cook would walk up to 2023 Tim Cook holding a bit ‘L’ on his forehead before giving him an atomic wedgie for having such a crappy iphone.

I like the joke but this is so clumsily written.

[–] kat_angstrom@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Agreed! Might be better phrased as,

"We've made so many advancements that 2023 Tim Cook would look at 2024 Tim Cook utterly horrified at his own ineptitude, and look at a mirror while holding up a big L on his forehead before giving himself an atomic wedgie.

I'm not a fan of the whole "atomic wedgie" bit either, feels dated

As an Android user, I completely agree with this statement but probably for different reasons.

[–] atro_city@fedia.io -4 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Crapple heads will buy anything their programmers tell them to.

[–] BetaBlake@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"but ive gotta keep buying their products because I'm already in the ecosystem...so it's just easier at this point" -The common cope

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 1 points 1 month ago

"I'll downvote people who point out my behavior"\ - The common cope

[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago

See you say this, but anyone who bought a cheapo Galaxy S20 in 2020, stopped receiving major Android version updates in 2022 whereas anyone who bought an iPhone XS or XR in 2018, will still get a major iOS version update in 2024...

Oh wait, what's this, the S20 was a flagship device, comparable or more expensive than the iPhone 12 at the time? Well that's a bit embarrassing...

[–] ZeroCool@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 month ago
[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

"I don't like things that are different"