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[–] Haagel@lemmings.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Venter is one of the many quacks who promised that he'd find the "aging gene" and switch it off. People threw a lot of money at him about twenty years ago.

[–] Sabre363@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Haven't we known about the aging part of genes (telomeres) for like 80 years

[–] Knusper@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hmm, I have no expertise in this field. I recently read that aging happens, because when cells replicate their DNA a gazillion times, then sometimes they introduce slight inaccuracies or mistakes, which I guess, means tons of tiny chunks of our body will have slightly different DNA from what we got born with...?

From the little I've just read about telomeres, it sounds like they help to prevent some of these mistakes. Is that you mean?

[–] Sabre363@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

IIRC, telomeres are essentially the self-destruct button for DNA. They get shorter everytime DNA replicates and when they are all used up, DNA stops replicating and the cell destroys itself. The telomeres help prevent too many mutations from building up or cancer from forming.

They was some research on animals that indicates that resetting the telomeres can extend the lifespan of the animal. But, without the telomeres, cancer and mutations eventually kill the organism.

[–] Knusper@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Interesting. Yeah, it sounds like the only real way to prevent aging, would be to create a clone of yourself, let that clone grow up until their body is fully developed and then organ-harvest them to replace all of your organs one-by-one, until you've eventually ship-of-theseus-ed yourself. Well, and repeat that process every thirty years or so.

Certainly not quite as sexy of a process as some skincare lotions promise...

[–] Sabre363@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You would never be able transplant the brain, and it's still subject to the mutations and telomeres. The only way would be to transplant the personality Altered Carbon style or completely cure brain cancer.

[–] Knusper@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

Yeah, that's true. Maybe you could pull off two or three cycles without hotswapping the brain, but eventually you'd have to rejuvenate yourself by just teach everything you know to one of your clones.

...which sounds an awful lot like just having children. 🙃

[–] SatanicNotMessianic@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m not even sure what he’s talking about. Open access journals are the ones who charge authors to publish.

If you publish in a journal that has closed access, there is generally no fee to publish. If you want your paper to be open access, you can tack on an additional open access fee so that your paper doesn’t end up behind a paywall. The last time I looked - and this was several years ago - the going rate for making your paper open access in a closed access journal was about $2-3k. We always budgeted for publication fees when we were putting together our funding proposals.

The fee structure is similar for open access journals, except that there’s not a choice about paying them. For researchers whose work isn’t grant funded, it generally means they’re paying out of pocket, unless their institution steps in.

I had a paper published in a small but (in its field) prestigious journal, and the editor explained to me that he only charges people who can afford it, and uses those funds to cover the costs of the journal. He explained that he had a paper from a researcher who couldn’t cover the publishing fee, and he let me know that I was helping out the other person, too.

What I don’t understand is how anyone how has gone through academia doesn’t know this.

[–] QZM@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you publish in a journal that has closed access, there is generally no fee to publish.

What field are you in? In the life sciences, there's normally a fee to publish closed-access and a higher one for open-access. My last paper was open access and costed about 3500, compared to 1500 pay walled.

[–] LyingCake@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

I am currently trying to publish in the European Journal of Psychology (EJoP), which is Open Access only. The fee is 750€, if I'm not mistaken, and you can apply for fee reduction. I have no idea how lenient/strict they are with that, or how much effort that would be. The department is covering the costs, obviously.

[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Nestlé has been patenting human milk proteins for decades. To my understanding, this prevents other companies to add such molecules to baby formula, even if somehow methods to synthesize said molecules were developed.

That is a scary notion, a malevolous intent and a gross outcome.

[–] ForgotAboutDre@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

These shouldn't hold up. Wouldn't the prior work of thousands of generations of mothers invalidate such a patent.

[–] Darkard@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Excuse me madam but do you have a license to use those tits? No? Didn't think so. The content of those bazongas is Nestle property. I'm afraid I'm going to have to clamp those nipples until such time as the proper Bandonkadonk subscriptions are paid"

[–] zaphod@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As long as the tits aren't used for commercial purposes you don't need a license. Anyway, I doubt that in Europe you could patent any naturally occuring molecules in any kind of milk.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can patent pretty much anything in Europe.

However, enforcing those patents is a completely different affair.

[–] zaphod@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

Maybe some countries' patent offices don't take their job serious, but in general there are loads of things you can patent. For example basically anything naturally occuring is not generally patentable, but you can patent methods for synthesising or extracting naturally occuring things.

[–] GenEcon@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Something doesn't add up here since you can't patent anything for decades.

[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Seems like I messed up carrying over thoughts over language barrier.

Where was I unclear?

[–] bort@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

patents expire. so nestle shoudln't be able to "patenting human milk proteins for decades"

[–] seth@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

He owns a yacht. I'd be interested to hear of a single yacht owner who is a decent person. I'm not sure one exists.

Edit: Thanks for the cool examples of decent people with yachts!

[–] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Noah seemed like a chill dude. Man liked his drink, for sure. Loved animals...

[–] Notyou@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wasn't he the one that banged his daughters? Idk there was a few of those types in the bible.

[–] SlikPikker@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

Lot.

And actually, to be "fair" to him, his daughters raped him.

As written it's not strictly his fault. Even if his parenting skills clearly lack.

[–] bl_r@beehaw.org 0 points 1 year ago

Paywalled articles are still openly available if you politely email the researcher. While we should strive to have no barrier, if you can’t afford to publish openly those who need the research can still acquire it under the table. Having research unpublished because the researchers could not afford to pay the fee is worse than having the research published in a closed journal.

I’ve gotten a few dozen papers from closed journals that way, and I’ve never been told no.