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[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Oh dude the shit I flipped when I figured out the cult I grew up in was a cult? It was not pretty. I get it.

[–] aleph@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Archuleta himself, though, has a history of anti-LGBTQ+ rhetoric. He previously blamed LGBTQ+ individuals for the Club Q shooting and said that queer people are “groomers” – or child sex abusers – a negative stereotype that has been used to justify hatred and discrimination.

Bruh.

[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Sounds like some deeply, deeply internalized self-hatred going on there.

[–] brygphilomena@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

No, no. You see, he's just one of the good ones. If the rest of them were just like him, there wouldn't be an issue.

/s

[–] Plopp@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Not necessarily? The dude is gay, LGBT+ and queer covers a lot more than gay. Maybe he just hates the other ones.

[–] Plastic_Ramses@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Which part of the lgbt community are groomers?

[–] Kushan@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

There's weirdly a lot of fractures within the LGBTQ+ community, there's a joke that the letters are "in order of preference" and quite a lot of the gay community doesn't recognise trans people, or thinks Bi folks are just gay but won't admit it and things like that.

An ex of mine was bi and I got exposed to a lot of this shit because of the amount of shit she got from some of her lesbian friends over dating a man. It really shocked me because it's completely against your own interests to become the very thing that's opressed you and your kin, yet here we are - gay republicans.

[–] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 0 points 2 months ago

It's the ones that are also republicans.

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Something to think about is that there are men who see a benefit to gayness being something you can be social ostracized for, because it enables them to have gay sex freely with the knowledge that if there partners ever tell anyone about it they'll suffer repercussions.

[–] Cosmicomical@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Sounds deranged. If it was NOT socially ostracized they would NOT need to rely on the partner being ostracized.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm baffled how anyone that isn't a straight white male with money convinces themselves they're part of the Republican Club.

All these people grasping at party acceptance are doing is screaming "hey I'm a piece of shit too!"

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm a school bus driver and I work with a few Trump-supporting lesbians. It's no mystery why: they really, really hate black people and that hatred blinds them to any possible conception of their own self-interest. For good measure they're also staunchly pro-union.

[–] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Bruh, same team, same fight.

How could they not see how hypocritical that is?

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Ask yourself the same question. Not trying to pick on you but think of all the people on your side that are only on your side because of they agree with you on like 25% of the issues or because or some quality.

Just an example of something people are relatively calm about: I can be pro-union for lumberjacks but not want the Pacific Northwest to become a dead parking lot and the spotted owl to be extinct. I agree with them on one issue and not others.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

“Messages of hate, bigotry, and government control over people’s lives are not Republican or Christian,” Republican Douglas County Commissioner Abe Laydon said with a straight face.

[–] herrcaptain@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

To give this dude credit, from the rest of the quote in the article it sounds like he's genuinely standing up against this sort of hate, and I expect it's at a very tangible personal cost. I find it almost unbelievable that anyone who genuinely opposes hate of a sort that's become a part of the absolute fabric of modern conservatism could still be a Republican, but apparently this dude is the exception. I hope he has the sense to get out now, but I'll take what genuine progress I can get given I've largely written off most conservatives as a lost cause.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

He's a conservative. He only opposes the hate that personally affects him.

[–] Drummyralf@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

So, I live in a European country where our right-wing politics would probably be considered "left" by Republican Americans.

I vote sort of central. Not too left, not too right. Even though I disagree with many things that our rightwinged politicians stand for, I can see some merit in them at times. The same with our left-leaning politicians.

When I see discussions among Americans, it seems to me either party just hates the other party, automatically calling them bigoted. And it comes across as a heavily divided country without any hope for reconciliation.

So 2 questions: Republicans: is there any democratic strength you wish your party would implement?

And democrats: is there any republican strength that you wish your party would implement?

[–] TurtleJoe@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

You should just read what the Republicans will do if Trump is reelected.

They've published their plans, and I want exactly zero of any of the "policy" they plan on implementing.

[–] Delta_V@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I wish the Democrats would lay off the gun control.

Regarding taxes, both parties fail in different ways. Democratic tax policy fails at the Federal level - low/zero taxes at the Federal level makes sense because the Federal government hasn't needed to collect taxes since establishing the Federal Reserve banking system and moving off the gold standard. Republican tax policy fails at the State level - low taxes at the State level makes less sense, because the states actually need the money to pay for programs that market forces do not provide for.

Neither party is doing enough to make our military industry more efficient, less organizationally top heavy, and less corrupt. Spending resources on war is bad, but losing a war to tyrants like China or Russia would be worse. I want USA to have more weapons for less money.

Both parties fail when it comes to welfare programs. Republicans would implement sadistic and self-destructive abolition of all safety nets. Democrats craft welfare programs that pull the rug out from under people as soon as they start down the road toward financial stability, trapping people in poverty by removing the safety net too soon. For example, Medicaid is the only good healthcare available in this backwards nation, but you need to stay poor to get it - earn too much money and you'll end up poorer than when you started.

[–] dariusj18@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I used to believe the Republican party brought much needed conservatism to the table. There were reasonable concerns that the Democratic party was too heavy handed with implementing morality and over reaching laws. The Democratic party has mostly been in the right side of social permissivness since then and the Republican party has gone fucking crazy Reactionary which they have rebranded as "Conservative". It has become an intersection dynamic where the Democratic party has become a coalition of progressives and conservatives, who just to want to keep the rights they have. Unfortunately there are many "Team R" fans that don't recognize that their party no longer represents them.

So short answer, the Democratic party has already absorbed the strengths of the Republican party.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I wonder how much it is the parties changed and how much it is we changed as a people. When I was a kid it was a race to the middle, the majority of the population could vote either way. Now the middle is basically gone and power is from who can get their base motivated.

[–] hondacivic@lem.sabross.xyz 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

the real issue is having only two parties. it makes the tribalism even stronger.

[–] Drummyralf@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

For me, a two party system seems really odd too. The flipside though, is having like 18 parties that all represent something, which takes way more cooperation and finding middle ground. This might seem good on paper, but can sometimes lead to indecisiveness or an unwillingness to take unpopular decisions. In the long run, that might cause a country to slowly fall behind on various topics due to a lack of vision.

Source: I'm a Dutch guy who has seen this happen in it's own country.

[–] Twelve20two@slrpnk.net 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm not a democrat, I'm far more left. But if there's something I'd like the Republicans to do, it's to actually repeal some of their laws and attempt to make the government a bit smaller and more efficient (without just removing funding/programs/departments). Currently, that doesn't seem to be happening.

[–] dan@upvote.au 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm far more left

Note that "left" in the USA would usually be considered centrist or only slightly left in Europe.

[–] Twelve20two@slrpnk.net 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You don't necessarily know how left I am, though

[–] dan@upvote.au 1 points 2 months ago
[–] Baggie@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Stupid as this is, at least he worked it out? I'm a little impressed.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

No he didn't:

...and arguing that they don't represent Republican views.

He's still in fucking denial.