1. Be civil
No trolling, bigotry or other insulting / annoying behaviour
2. No politics
This is non-politics community. For political memes please go to !politicalmemes@lemmy.world
3. No recent reposts
Check for reposts when posting a meme, you can only repost after 1 month
4. No bots
No bots without the express approval of the mods or the admins
5. No Spam/Ads
No advertisements or spam. This is an instance rule and the only way to live.
For more context: I already had the communism and lefty communites blocked. I'd consider myself middle-left of the political spectrum but personally don't believe in some grand revolution saving us all. Most left communities on here seem to far out there for my personal taste at least. My comment is deleted but if you wanna see the post here's the link.
So you block everything you don't like, but you complain that people block you when they don't like what you have to say? You do see the irony here right?
There's no irony there. There's a difference between curating your own experience and others forcing censorship on you.
People can curate the experience they want on their community as well. Same thing really. They don't have to content with low quality post that calls them in question with no substance over and over again.
Yeah. My sympathies lie with OP, but communities should be able to unapologetically curate their vibe.
I wish you’d differentiate between instance and community. I didn’t just get banned from that specific community but from the whole instance permanently without explanation. I mean I guess I don't mind that much in retrospect but it did mildly annoy me since I like commenting and lemmy doesn't have that much content to begin with compared to the likes of reddit.
lol. You were blocked because they didn't like your comment was getting upvotes? Idk, buddy. Good riddance, I'd say. I understand about the lack of content, though.
That applies to instances, too - they should be also free to curate their own vibes, including saying "you are not welcome here". Nobody here is entitled to the usage of an instance.
The problem with lemmy .ml is on another level: transparency. Instead of actually telling users what they want/don't want in their instance, like Hexbear for example correctly does, they keep pushing and pulling rule #1 (no bigotry - the reason why you were banned BTW) and rule #2 (be respectful) to justify every single action. It's effectively lying to the users.
I agree with you and think if an instance communicates clearly what they are and what they want then I have no problem.
BTW how do you no the reason why I'm supposedly banned when I don't even know that.
BTW how do you no the reason why I’m supposedly banned when I don’t even know that.
It's weird to think about it. It's a great transparency tool, and yet made by the same group that struggles to handle users in a transparent way.
That's actually a cool thing. Never knew this existed. My comment was definitely a bit salty looking back. It's just I didn't find any humor in the post and found this type of post to appear often. Good to know tho, I'll look into it since I'm curious what other type of comments they ban. Still bigotry is a weird claim, since they can't seem to tolerate my opinion. Although that brings up the whole tolerating intolerance topic. I don't think I was being intolerant personally. I just didn't find the satire in the meme.
When you create the experience of your community you are curating it for everyone else though, not just yourself which I think is the distinction.
I don't think it's necessarily a big deal because fortunately Lemmy has lots of instances and communities so if you disagree with one you can just go to another one.
When you create the experience of your community you are curating it for everyone else.
Yes. Everyone else includes me, who's tired of shitlibs posting low quality whining about leftists. One of the main reasons I got off Reddit.
I wish you'd differentiate between instance and community. I didn't just get banned from that specific community but from the whole instance permanently without explanation.
You do know the modlog is public right? You weren't banned, you're low effort comment was removed. Plus the distinction you're trying to make between community and instance is moot. In fact it's probably truer for an instance, the admins don't have to pay, maintain, and assume some liability for your content if they don't feel like it. They aren't providing a transport layer.
Wait I checked and now im just banned from !memes@lemmy.ml but not from lemmy.ml as a whole. My comment wasn't low effort tho. I was just mentioning how I dislike communist violent revolution fantasy getting posted over and over as "memes" when they aren't ironic or satirical.
I block it since I'm not here for revolutionary fantasy. I am not the second biggest lemmy instance. The arguments I've had with people from that community are barely worth my time and I don't feel like seeing this type of content. You can block me, I don't care. Users choose to see by their preference but relevant instances should have coherent rules and not just political agenda by whom they allow and block. That's just my take on that tho!
ml stands for Marxist-Leninist. When anyone is allowed to make their own instance, and instances or users can defederate or block what they don't want to see, why can't an instance be political? That's like saying "no political communities!" Just block them and move on, just as they can do the same. You commented in the memes community of a communist instance and got annoyed that you got banned for being anti-communist. Plenty of instances out there, they don't all need to cater to every person.
Boiler plate comment
Marxist Leninist aren't communists. Or they wouldn't be Marxist Leninist. They do however like to cosplay as communists. Often naming things that aren't communist Communist. While I think the general proletariat were all aspirationally communist. Their leaders and the Vanguard party most certainly were not.
Its just that ml mentions itself being a general lemmy instance. Their description on join-lemmy.org is "A community of privacy and FOSS enthusiasts, run by Lemmy’s developers". I'm a FOSS and privacy enthusiast who likes Lemmy. I just happen to not like communism agenda pushed when I scroll through some memes. I definitely wouldn't say I'm some uncivil person. Sucks for me that ml is the second largest instance and they have the biggest memes community.
Sure, if you let it bother you. If you care about the memes that much, ignore the stuff you don't like, if you can't stand it, find one of many other communities. I don't think it's on them, regardless of poor branding, when there's so many other instances. No one is forcing you to engage in the comments of posts you don't like.
I mean I feel like many or even most memes there are fine, just those few in between are annoying to me. I'm over it but I was still kinda annoyed initially
I constantly say the same, but one correction on a small fact: Lemmy.ml isn't even close to being the second largest instance (perhaps at one point it was but not anymore).
https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/list shows the stats, hint sort by Active Users. Lemmy.World with ~80% of all Lemmy users is by far the #1, then lemmynsfw.com, lemm.ee, sh.itjust.works, and lemmy.ml is #5.
My problem is the simping for dictators and dictatorships.
Oh also the Revolution LARPing and the anti-electoralism.
I find a lot of lefty communities around here (Lemmy in general) tick those boxes which means they're a no from me. But I'd be super happy if someone linked one that didn't tick those boxes.
I straight up stopped searching for communities that advertise that their left on here due to them basically ticking those boxes mentioned above.
Lemmy as a whole is pretty staunchly left and tolerant generally. Looking for things flagging themselves left here. Implies looking for the left of the left. Which ultimately leads to circle jerking and edgelord virtue signaling. It's a bad time. Left can mean different things to different people. Drasticly so. If you consider yourself "left" look into some of their philosophies and see what resonates. Then look for communities based around that. You'll likely have a much better time. And learn things in the process. Win win.
Yeah for real, I got sick of being gaslit eventually so I ended up just using my client to instance block some of the worst offenders and found similar communities on less extremist instances. Been a lot better since then.
Yeah I feel that... I like discussing novel ideas how things can be done different. I once had a longer discussion with one of the aforementioned users but I knew there was no point once they started denying mass starvation in the soviet union and the human rights infringements. I wish it could be different but I guess you gotta pick your poison whether or not to see these communities. Also I don't get them claiming china being supposedly communist when its really not but oh well...
I dont care about politics, I just want to laugh at dumb memes
You have me agreeing with you on that one!
I never managed to be blocked.
I did have a post deleted explaining that a meme was from a spam account to somebody trying to understand the meme, based on the rule that disallows spam. But AFAIK, that's all.
Anyway, I've removed all ml communities from my list. It's not worth interacting with the people there.
Honestly I'd agree with you if it wasn't for the fact that sadly lemmy is still really small in terms of content and I like interacting with people. Since ml is like the second biggest community its mildly annoying but I guess you gotta pick your poison. Probably better just focusing on content from the other instances thats a bit less toxic tho.
Elsewhere I mentioned how Lemmy.ml is only the #5 instance, not #2. Here I'd like to add that even memes@lemmy.ml is not all that large.
For one, outside of that instance there are MANY meme communities rather than concentrating all into one giant megalithic community subject to whatever authoritarian mods are in charge there (ironically there is far more "sharing" outside of the "communist" instance than inside it:-P though the developers of Lemmy do share their codebase and that much deserves credit).
For another, take a look at the MAU - that stands for Monthly Active Users - and you'll see its only <2/3rds the size of the largest community on Lemmy.World, plus there's over a dozen additional communities that are larger than !memes@Lemmy.ml.
So yes, you'll need to spend more time curating your experiences here than on Lemmy.ml or Reddit, like you'll need to subscribe to multiple memes communities rather than just one. Hopefully you'll continue to contribute by posting in one of those rather than the tankie one, and make & keep them all the more active as a result of your participation:-).
FYI the ".ML" does not stand for Millesian Liberalism.
lol yes