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Most of the time when people say they have an unpopular opinion, it turns out it's actually pretty popular.

Do you have some that's really unpopular and most likely will get you downvoted?

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[–] PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Fuck ALL advertisements. Yes, even "unobtrusive" ones, especially yours. If I want your shit, I will find you. If I appreciate your shit, I'll pay you for your time. If you want to connect, I'm all ears. Otherwise, fuck off capitalists, fuck off advertisers, and fuck off useful idiots who want to waste my finite lifespan in this miserable universe showing me ads.

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[–] Fixbeat@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] Lumun@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I downvoted because this is a popular opinion. MCU is the same thing. Most people probably don't have a strong opinion on Star Wars either way, but for the people who do there are plenty who think it sucks.

[–] MiddledAgedGuy@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I agree with this take.

I like Star Wars fine. If they make something, I'll probably watch it. But I don't consider myself a fan. I don't keep track of the lore and would be hard pressed to tell you the plot of anything I hadn't seen recently. Which is a long way of saying I'm in the don't have a strong opinion camp.

[–] stolid_agnostic@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago

New Star Wars sucks for sure. The originals are much better.

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[–] frozen@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (11 children)

Being fat is a choice the vast majority of the time, and I have a huge bias against big people.

I used to be fat (250ish lbs (110ish kg) at 5'8"ish (172ish cm)), and as much as I would like to blame my shit on anything else, the person feeding me, the person sitting at the computer for hours, the person actively avoiding all physical activity was me and no one else. After I got diagnosed with some weight related shit, I turned my entire life upside down, am at a much healthier 150 lbs (68ish kg), and feel so much better, both physically and mentally.

I'm aware of my bias, and I make every active effort to counter it in my actual dealings with bigger people. Especially because there are certain circumstances, however rarely, where it may not actually be their fault. But I'd be lying if I said my initial impression was anything except "God, what a lazy, fat fuck."

Edit: Added metric units

[–] Lumun@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've been thinking about this topic a lot lately and your comment is interesting. Your first sentence is definitely phrased in a more controversial way than the rest of your comment, but I can't help seeing it as very similar to "Being depressed is a choice the vast majority of the time, and I have a huge bias against depressed people." Is that an unfair comparison?

I know that treating fatness/obesity as a disease is kinda controversial but I feel like folks give people dealing with mental health a lot more grace than people dealing with health issues related to being fat. I've also heard that for some people they can be perfectly healthy at a higher weight (though this is clearly not the case for many fat people who are seeing health impacts). I guess I'm assuming that a lot of fat people would potentially like to be less so, but can't (for any number of reasons) quite get there. This seems really similar for me to people dealing with depression, anxiety, etc who want to change things but keep falling back into the problem.

I guess my question is do you have bias against people who can't escape other bad cycles like mental health or even stuff like alcoholism? Or is it more just that you think it's fair to judge people without the discipline/willpower to get out of a state they didn't want to be in, like you did.

[–] frozen@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is a fair question. I guess maybe my statement could've been less broad. If just "being fat" is the primary problem, that's what I take issue with. If the problem is deeper, and being fat is a secondary issue (like a result of depression, hypothyroidism, or some other mental/physical ailment), then that's a different situation. My stance in that case is that the person should be actively trying to treat the primary problem. I know depression almost never just goes away. Sometimes it even sticks around with therapy and medicine, and that sucks hard. But at least they're trying.

[–] WillFord27@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

This is an old thread, but taking your first comment into account, doesn't this make them guilty until proven innocent in your eyes? If your first thought is "what a fat lazy fuck" without knowing their story? That seems unnecessarily judgmental, and I can't help but wonder if it comes from a place of insecurity, maybe left over from your own history with weight

[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 2 points 1 year ago

I especially hate when everyone's conclusion is genetics. That's such a minuscule percent of obese people that it's ridiculous.

[–] GreenMario@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Sure.

But that doesn't mean go out and harass fat people. Trust me we fucking know. You can't lose weight instantly. Some of us may actually be working on it.

Also fat people have the right to be happy. People hating on "happy at any size" is just being assholes for the sake of it.

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[–] Vlyn@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I totally get that, same here.

But ultimately you can't just blame people. There is literally an entire industry trying to sell you cheap carbs and fat. Down to the sound a bag of chips makes when you open it (this is not a joke).

So on one hand you have evolution, your body still being stuck in the past where food was scarce. On the other hand you have too much food and it's highly engineered to be addicting on purpose.

It's no surprise most people are going to lose that challenge.

[–] Mrs_deWinter@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

After I got diagnosed with some weight related shit, I turned my entire life upside down, am at a much healthier 150 lbs (68ish kg), and feel so much better, both physically and mentally.

Something disillusioning from the field of psychotherapy research: Our best, most interdisciplinary, low-threshold therapeutic strategies allow people to, on average, lose and hold the loss of up to 7-10% of the weight they've started with. Which isn't even enough to get most people out of the obesity range. What you've been through is exceptional. By far most people will never manage to lose that much, not even with professional help.

To put it this way: If we look at obesity like a mental disorder it's one of the hardest to overcome, harder than depression or anxiety.

I get why so many people share your opinion on this, I just feel like it's missing context. Because sure, physiologically its possible for a depressed person to "just go out more" or an anxious person to "just stop breathing so fast" or an overweight person to "just eat less and move more", but this is such an oversimplified way to look at how humans work and why they do what they do that is simply stops being correct. Every now and then you'll meet someone who managed to do all this just like that, but for the vast majority it's an unrealistic and unfair thing to ask.

Obesity is a chronic disorder and will continue to be until we get better treatments.

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[–] loudWaterEnjoyer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)
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[–] eddy@infosec.pub 4 points 1 year ago

Religion is nothing more then social engineering on a grand scale.

[–] CheeseBread@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

Pansexual, polysexual, and omnisexual are all microlabels and are all subsets of bisexual. You don't need more labels than gay, straight, and bi.

Edit: I forgot about asexuals. But I specifically only care about bi subsets. They're dumb, and you only need bi

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[–] jsveiga@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Dogs were hardwired by selective breeding to worship their owners. Not long ago they at least were loyal companions. You got one off the streets, fed it leftovers, washed it with a hose, it lived in the yard, and it was VERY happy and proud of doing its job. Some breeds now were bred into painful disabling deformities just to look "cute", and they became hysterical neurotic yapping fashion accessories. Useless high maintenance toys people store in small cages ("oh, but my child loves his cage") when they don't need hardwired unconditional lopsided "love" to feed their narcissism.

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[–] MeatsOfRage@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Reddit is gonna be just fine and the shade we like to throw around here isn't even a blip on their radar

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[–] Sombyr@lemmy.one 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Most conservatives, however deeply red, are not intentionally hateful and are usually open to rational discussion. People just don't know how to have rational discussions nowadays and the few times they do, they don't know how to think like somebody else and put things in a way they can understand.

People nowadays think because a point convinced them, it should convince everybody else and anybody who's not convinced by it is just being willfully ignorant. The truth is we all process things differently and some people need to hear totally different arguments to understand, often put in ways that wouldn't convince you if you heard it.

It's hard to understand other people and I feel like the majority of people have given up trying in favor of assuming everybody who disagrees with you knows their wrong and refuses to admit it.

[–] Squirrel@thelemmy.club 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If it wasn't for their response to the pandemic, I might be inclined to agree with you.

[–] argv_minus_one@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

And their response to LGBT+ issues, and their response to Trump's crimes, and…

Yeah, no. Republicans have had more than enough opportunities to redeem themselves. There is no remaining doubt to give them the benefit of.

[–] Elderos@lemmings.world 1 points 1 year ago

It is very hard to have rational disccussion when people disagree on the basic observable facts, ignore the "rules" of debate, and are struggling with critical thinking. You can meet difficult people on all the political spectrum, but certain idealogy attract more difficult people, and certain stuff mainstream conservatives believe right now has absolutely no basis in reality.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago

My unpopular opinion is that too many people give way, waaaaaayyy too much attention to "correct use of gender pronouns" and they should all just stfu.

I understand why that is a big deal for trans people, because they make their gender the defining aspect of their character. Something I consider a mistake, nobody's main defining characteristic should be their gender.

[–] shrugal@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

We have blown the concept of ownership way out of proportion. No one should be able to own things they have absolutely no connection to, like investment firms owning companies they don't work for, houses they don't live in or land they've never been to.

[–] Thorny_Thicket@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

We don't need more pronouns. We need less of them.

In my native language there is no even he/she pronouns. The word is β€œhΓ€n” and it’s gender neutral. You can be male, female, FTM, MTF, non-binary or what ever and you’re still called β€œhΓ€n”. You can identify as anything you like and "hΓ€n" already includes you.

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[–] richieadler@lemmy.myserv.one 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Most people shouldn't be parents.

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[–] Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

People who are strongly against nuclear power are ignorant of the actual safety statistics and are harming our ability to sustainably transition off fossil fuels and into renewables.

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[–] squaresinger@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago (6 children)

It is really hard to have an unpopular opinion unless you are mentally deranged/a conspiracy theorist.

As evidenced by the comments under this very post. Even when trying most people can't come up with an actually unpopular opinion.

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[–] tweeks@feddit.nl 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Euthanasia should be available for anyone at any age. You don't choose to be born, life has no inherent value, suffering is strictly personal. Suicide is a terrible option with lots of drama, an extremely high failure rate and lifelong treatments or medication that are seen as the solution by society is a conservative convulsion of keeping people alive under any circumstances.

We could set up three sessions with a therapist, to keep people from losing loved ones too fast. But honestly, to me that would feel patronizing. That other people find it important someone stays alive is their problem. If it hurts them too much they can do the same.

There is joy in life and that's beautiful, but on a scale suffering has the possibility to be more intense. Let people die without drama, let them say goodbye if they want with a ceremony, let them choose.

That's the next step in the mentality of a modern civilization. It will fix the drama of wars, hunger and pain as you always have a simple painless solution if the suffering gets too heavy. Just end it, peacefully, whenever you want.

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[–] MrFunnyMoustache@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Trying to get people to change problematic behaviour, language, or opinion through yelling, or shaming is ineffective most of the time. Obviously I can't expect people who belong to minorities to not be angry, not everyone can be Daryl Davis, but if you are white and don't have a personal trauma, you should use more effective methods to correct people's problematic behaviour.

Source: I was able to get my family to stop using the N word, and even my elderly father who doesn't actually remember that it's bad to use the N word has stopped using it thanks to this very simple technique: every time he says that word, stop the conversation and explain why this word is harmful and dangerous to use, don't let them steer the conversation back. Being visibly angry with them will only make them dig in their heels and seek comfort with other people who are racist, making it more difficult to get them out.

Eventually they will subconsciously stop using that word, simply because this causes the conversation to be interrupted every time. So while I don't punish them (can't exactly tell my father to go to his room or something), the repeated inconvenience of having the conversation halted every time will get it in their head eventually.

I think this is the most effective method to correct problematic behaviour in adults.

[–] christophski@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Not having kids because of climate change is stupid. You are leaving the world in the hands of people who care less than you.

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[–] charonn0@startrek.website 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Nuking Japan was in proportion and in service to the United States' legitimate military objectives.

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[–] Lifecoach5000@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

The Beatles were overrated.

[–] fortinwithwill@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Dogs suck ass. All of them can go to hell. No one actually likes their dog or takes care of them as they should. I can not understand how anyone could want to handle man sizes poos on the regular, or listen to a single bark it's so annoying.

[–] Wilshire@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Owning a second home should be illegal.

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[–] Lauchs@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Generally, social justice is at best, a distraction from real issues, albeit with very good intentions.

(We talk about human dignity, representation in film etc but not say, the fact most of our stuff is made by children who occasionally burn to death making it. If I were one of the billionaires running things, I would be overjoyed that people were so distracted about what a comedian said versus how our entire economic model is structured.)

[–] takoman@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't believe in prison for punitive justice. Prions should be used to keep society safe from dangerous people, not punishing them imo.

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[–] dillydogg@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago

I LOVE banana flavored stuff. When I say this, people will often say "even banana flavored Laffy Taffy?". Yes, that's the best flavor and it's not even close.

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