The best time to switch to Firefox was 5 years ago. The second best is today.
this post was submitted on 17 Jul 2023
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Oops, I switched 15 years ago,
I switch when it was Phoenix, then switch again when it was Firebird, and finally switch when it become Firefox
you win Firefox!
I went straight from Mozilla Navigator to Firefox 1.0.
Tabs were such a crazy new thing back then. You would show tabbed browsing to someone (rather than opening new windows) and they thought you were a wizard. IE5 didn’t have tabs, so nerds moved to Mozilla/Firefox. Then IE6 came out but still didn’t have tabs. By the time IE7 came out, I’d had tabbed browsing for 5+ years.
If only Firefox weren’t such a crap dev experience compared to Chrome.
have you tried it recently?
I was of the same opinion for a long time, used to dev in chrome, now I use exclusively firefox, I think it's better or at least, there is nothing I miss from chrome.
I use it all the time to debug fun special behavior of Firefox.
what special behavior? I only had issues with Safari lately (with IE dead)
The vertical alignment in flexboxes behaves slightly different in Chrome than Firefox. In Chrome, everything is neatly baseline aligned, and in Firefox it's all over the place. Another thing I recently had was that Firefox just refused to load the custom fonts for some weird reason. That one went away by itself after a while.
do you mean like a flex-row and without using align-items: center?
because with center it works fine. same with flex-col and justify-content: center.
It might just be a default that's different between the two browsers, and I haven't set anything. This has been so low on my priority list that I never actually looked into it.
You talking about the dev tools or it's support for new web technologies? Dev tools seem to have improved by a lot since the last time I used it, but I do wish they were quicker with support for other things, like can we get working Web Speech API support?
The dev tools specifically. They're also pretty behind on web tech, but that's another topic. For example, they still don't have WebGPU support.
Ah I see, I haven't run into any issues with it in development, but I am curious what specific issues you see with the Firefox dev tools?
It's not really issues, it's just the overall usability. For example, you can't press F8 to continue while the focus is in the console, you have to grab the mouse and click into the debugger view (also, debugger is a weird name for the source view).
I hope more people can become aware of how Firefox is better for your privacy
Privacy means shit if you're using your browser to log into social media attached to your name.
Not necessarily, if you can easily separate your browser's sessions via containers: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/multi-account-containers/
What's the point they make in the video? Can't watch it right now.
Mainly that Firefox has telemetry enabled by default and you have to go into the settings to disable it.
Thank you even more!
tl;dw: All browsers have the same "privacy-ruining" features.
Thank you!
I've been a Firefox main since before it was even called Firefox :D
As much as it lagged behind in speed in the early days of Chrome, back then Chrome didn't have anywhere near to Firefox's amazing selection of addons, many of which were essential to my workflow.
That also meant that I hated Firefox's switch to WebExtensions, as it gutted most of the addons I used at the time, and it took them many years to get back as many features as possible (which of course has never been all the original features).
I even switched to Firefox ESR, then when that dropped support too, to Waterfox for a few years to retain the ability to use classic addons. But eventually it became too much hassle, and I have been a Firefox mainbranch user again since 2021 :)
For the handful of websites that only work in Chrome (or when I need to test my own websites), I've been using Brave in recent years. It's weirdly into crypto nonsense, but at least those features can be disabled. But if anyone knows a better Google-less Chromium browser, pls let me know!
I’ve been a Firefox main since before it was even called Firefox :D
So before February 2004?
I have always despised Chrome, with Firefox being my preferred web browser. However, I still keep Vivaldi installed on my Linux system in case something requires Chromium for compatibility reasons.
And why not Brave 👀 Way better than Mozart, or whatever 😅
With the number of people concerned about privacy, it is a wonder why chrome is even popular.
It's no wonder. It's because people aren't actually concerned about privacy.
If you ask someone if they're "concerned about privacy" many people will of course say yes. If you follow up that question with "what are you willing to do about it", you'll find that the answer is a resounding "not a God damn thing". If they were they would spend 3 minutes on Google looking for an alternative browser that works even better than Chrome but without the privacy invasions.
A browser is the low-hanging fruit on the "do-you-care-about-privacy meter". It's the one step with no sacrifices and the highest increase in privacy.
My dual core Celeron laptop tells me you should go fuck yourself and your slow browser