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[–] Ruorc@lemmy.ml 29 points 2 months ago

I'm torn on this one. Obviously, the victims deserve to get payment and whatnot, but the other half of this is that the bankruptcy court agreement with the Sackler family would prevent them from future liability for similar cases. Supreme Court is saying the bankruptcy court didn't have the power to grant that, which, if excluded, would open the Sacklers to future lawsuits. I'm all for that family getting sued into oblivion, but we can't trust the Supreme Court to do what's right either. We have to treat everything they do with suspicion. This comes on the heels of the ruling of 'bribery is now basically legal', so it makes me wonder how much the Sackler family is paying them.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

Far too many wealthy people have forgotten the alternative to these processes of checks and balances. And too often they get away with little to no damages done to them. As QoL continues to plummet, they will eventually push someone with nothing to lose.

[–] stevedidwhat_infosec@infosec.pub 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Because of fucking course

Who will we blame our problems on if we just go and start taking steps towards solving them

[–] MrJameGumb@lemmy.world 23 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It was rejected because the settlement would have made the company bulletproof against any further civil suits and effectively left the most villainous people with billions of dollars

[–] stevedidwhat_infosec@infosec.pub 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Do you have source for this so I can learn more?

[–] MrJameGumb@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Yes. It says it quite clearly in the article above. That's where I read it.

[–] stevedidwhat_infosec@infosec.pub -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Quote the block you’re referring to please. The lawyer wouldn’t be calling this a major setback if the plan was flawed (what you’re seemingly claiming) - in fact:

“The U.S. Bankruptcy Trustee, an arm of the Justice Department, argued that the bankruptcy law does not permit protecting the Sackler family from being sued. “

Which actually means the opposite of what I think you’re getting at. Even if they bankrupted, they could still be sued. Help me understand where/what you saw that lead to this rationale.

[–] MrJameGumb@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You read the same article I did buddy, I don't have any other information. If you disagree with my assessment of it that's fine, I'm not going to sit here and copy/paste the whole article for you though.

[–] stevedidwhat_infosec@infosec.pub -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Makes claim

Makes no attempt to back it up

Kk good talk lol

[–] MrJameGumb@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Dude, it literally says it in the article in the post. If you can't be bothered to read it that's not my problem. I'm not going to go through and post quotes and links to an article that the post has already provided. It's not difficult, just click the link in the post

[–] stevedidwhat_infosec@infosec.pub -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I’ve obviously read the article. I posted quotes from the article.

You don’t need to do anything - but if you’re going to make a claim that someone has explicitly countered with a direct quote, the sensible thing would be to continue the conversation.

At best, you’re trolling. We can conclude this conversation if you’re too lazy to actually back up anything you’ve said with tangible evidence. Until then you’re just saying words. That’s the only factual take away anyone should have from your claim.

[–] MrJameGumb@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's literally in the article my source is right there. The only person trolling at this point is you. There is literally nothing I can quote here that isn't in the article, so copying and pasting it for you serves no purpose. I am done arguing with you about it, so I am blocking you now.

Have a nice day

[–] stevedidwhat_infosec@infosec.pub -1 points 2 months ago

Figures - somehow the guy trying to have an informed conversation with someone about their views on an article when clear confusion about said view is expressed, they refuse to elaborate or participate in civil discourse.

Some people just want to speak to hear their own voice I suppose. If anyone else shares this view, and does wish to participate, I’d be happy to continue

[–] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

But they bankrupted their shell company and paid like 250,000 5 years ago what more could you monsters want‽

/s

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 3 points 2 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


After deliberating more than six months, the justices in a 5-4 vote blocked an agreement hammered out with state and local governments and victims.

Justices Brett Kavanaugh, Ketanji Brown Jackson, Elena Kagan and Sonia Sotomayor dissented.

The high court had put the settlement on hold last summer, in response to objections from the Biden administration.

Arguments in early December lasted nearly two hours in a packed courtroom as the justices seemed, by turns, unwilling to disrupt a carefully negotiated settlement and reluctant to reward the Sacklers.

The Purdue Pharma settlement would have ranked among the largest reached by drug companies, wholesalers and pharmacies to resolve epidemic-related lawsuits filed by state, local and Native American tribal governments and others.

Sackler family members no longer are on the company’s board, and they have not received payouts from it since before Purdue Pharma entered bankruptcy.


The original article contains 848 words, the summary contains 142 words. Saved 83%. I'm a bot and I'm open source!

[–] Feliskatos@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

I was all ready for outrage, but I think maybe they got this one right. Equality under the law should mean that the top of a pyramid is treated the same as the bottom.