The us has spent how many years becoming numb to shootings? so it shouldn't come as much of a surprise people got over this fast
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"Thoughts and prayers. What's for lunch?"
"A lead sandwich"
AMERICA, FUCK YEAH!
Not just that, but this guy has been so over the top idiotic about everything that it's hard to keep any level of give-a-shit for long about any of it. His presidency was exhausting because of it.
The amazing thing is not people forgetting about Trump's shaving nick, it's them forgetting about the dude who was actually killed.
"Forgetting". They do not want to start pulling that thread and I suspect that it is because of instructions from above. No one wants any focus on it. Republicans because of why would a republican wanna kill Trump and general gun control? Not an area where they want speculation to start running. As for the Democrats, investigation into what the fuck the secret service was doing will land on them being the sitting government. So under the carpet it goes. Lone maniac and nothing to see. Move on please.
I think they meant the retired firefighter who was standing behind Trump. No offence, but It's pretty telling that you also didn't think of him, as neither did I at first reading.
Uhm, right. My point still stands, though. You can't lift any story about this because of what that would drag with it. There's always questions, who is to blame, who didn't do their job, what was the motivation of the gunman, lots of little threads to pull on without even trying too hard. If that does become a big story, then the questions are inevitable and no one wants to answer questions about a clusterfuck like that. No one can see a winning angle with any certainty, so they just drop everything about it like the hot potato it is.
Only Trump wants it, and he can't have it, poor guy. Makes my day.
Pretty sure they mean the guy onstage.
... I also started typing a reply about the gunman, before remembering that dude.
Well they set the standard that gun violence is a normal part of every day life 🤷♂️
it already was
I actually find it really comforting that it's going back as if it never happened. Don't get me wrong, I wish the bullet had been a skosh to the right, but hear me out:
America does not give a shit about Donald Trump. The country doesn't care if he lives or dies. The media cares a lot, but the country doesn't think it matters that he almost got shot. He didn't get a bump. He didn't get a sobbing tearful day show host wondering if he's ok. He didn't even put out a commemorative "Trump got shot" bullet and let's be real, that's something he could have done himself. Nobody cares. He's not important to America.
I'm glad he's still running. If a Republican is going in office, I want it to be Trump. I want project 2025 handled by trump, as he's the moron who's most likely to fuck it up
Trump could have done what W did and hand off everything to the VP, and spent all his time golfing, grifting and shit talking, but, because he's a narcissist, he has to control everything and he's horrible at it.
Which just goes to show that money makes money. This fool, despite his incompetence, bankruptcy, etc., still has money some how.
This is why I truly believe there is no God.
How the fuck do dipshit millionaires like Trump, monarchs, and wealthy despots all over the world live safe, fantastic, lazy lives of high quality, meanwhile genuinely good-hearted, selfless, caring, hard-working people elsewhere live in abject poverty and danger?
Because genuinely good-hearted, selfless, caring, hard-working people won't do what you have to do to make that kind of money.
I have this recurring thought that this world is like a training program. Like it's to show what happens when you think "let's organize people into hierarchies" or "this is what results from your ideas playing out"
The writers were getting desperate, what with a season people seemed to genuinely not like anymore. The "Trump Gets Shot" arc was a last gasp for attention. But then they fired that old goofy guy playing the president and replaced him with his younger, smoother comic relief character. It was something of a reversal, sure, but it got us back into the old 2008 "Hope and Change" arc, which was a much bigger hit among younger viewers.
And its not like they just retired the middle aged bumbling white guy, either. That new Tim Walz character is pure charm and really works against the smarmy wall street guy they've brought in as this year's new villain.
It kind of feels like him getting shot at by a registered republican was his campaign 'jumping the shark'. I don't condone it by any means but there's a level of irony to how the last few months have played out
I wonder if Jack Black wishes he had just kept quiet for a week for everyone to forget about it.
Fuck Jack Black. You stand by your homies. Even if they do something stupid.
Yeah I can't believe his reaction to a crude joke about one of the worst people alive right now. I was shocked he cared that much
Personally, I think he's tired of Tenacious D and this was a good way to kill it. Plus he has more money to lose than Kyle. And I'm sure there was some concern about a concert getting shot up, but I'm sure it was a distant third.
Obviously no idea, pure speculation, but I assume there would have been like, multiple careers in jeopardy if Jack stuck by Kyle initially. Jack Black got big dummy money now. Big dummy careers like this have teams of people involved. I'm sure he was getting threats of being dropped from agencies and upcoming gigs (no more Bowser unless you back off) that played a role in the choice. He's got enough money to be fine, but what about the others affected? I'm sure it was a terrible place to be.
Truly some devil's advocate thoughts here; was a punk-ass move distancing himself from Kyle instead of calling out the hypocrisy. Risky jokes have existed since forever - hell Gilbert had 9/11 jokes the very next night. The Right out here selling merch with violent rhetoric for years. The whole thing is goofy.
The way he sold it isn't that he cares about Trump, but that he cared strongly about being a pacifist. Yeah alright, fair enough. But Kyle Gass is also a pacifist, realised he fucked up, and apologised from that perspective. So is Jack a pacifist, or does he just never give people second chances? :/
I think he was just imminently concerned about their safety. Like the post suggests, many thought desperate times were coming and any rando in a maga hat might retaliate.
Yeah, but this excuse kind of falls apart when you realise they were on tour in Australia, where the likelihood of a) someone caring about Trump enough; and b) has the means to retaliate in a country with far more restrictions on gun ownership.
His reaction might have made it into the top 5 reactions to the shots as far as severity of results. The only other reactions that weren't just words that I'm aware of are the SS eventually noticing and shooting the guy (plus increasing security), the one cop that shot the guy's gun, and maybe Trump himself getting PTSD. So Jack Black might have had the 4th most severe reaction by cancelling that tour and rethinking any future collaborations.
Hindsight is 20/20 but he probably should have just cancelled a show or two and then would have seen that the whole thing was dropped because it wasn't generating any sympathy for Trump (quite the opposite, the main sentiments I saw were "sucks he missed" and "we really shouldn't say that it sucks he missed, even though a lot of us are thinking that").
The Schutzstaffel were there? First I've heard of it.
If Republicans hadn't spent the last 30 years trying to make everyone numb to gun culture maybe people would actually give a shit.
"Nothing we can do, let's move on!" is their whole strategy, they should be happy that it fucking worked!
Personally I think the biggest reason is just how polarized people are right now. I mean, if Biden had been shot at, maybe there would have been a larger outpouring of sympathy - but I don't think anyone would have changed their votes because of it. The number of people who are deciding who to vote for right before they do it is at the smallest its ever been, virtually nobody is interested in changing their vote out of sympathy for the candidate anymore.
yeah whatever, pew pew, murica
I disagree. Trump surviving the asassination gave him a huge publicly. It should also be mentioned that Biden resigned shortly after, so this event really shook up the overall trajectory of the election.
It should also be mentioned that Biden resigned shortly after, so this event really shook up the overall trajectory of the election.
Nah, Biden's health spooked the donors well before Trump got shot.
I mean we'll never know for sure but I think the fear that Trump had just won the election was a big part of why the push for Biden to step aside lasted as long as it did and got as loud as it did.
Sure, until the 3rd to last episode when the writers have run out of ideas, so the character makes a big production about how he was shot at and feelings and stuff and hopefully it’ll be enough to make us care again till the finale.
It took me twice reading this to realize it wasn't about his COVID shot. But I think it applies the same.