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[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 28 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Canada now has a land border with Denmark. Have fun with that.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Island

[–] blaue_Fledermaus@mstdn.io 24 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Small text explains that exclaves are excluded, otherwise Brazil also has a land border with France.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Had to think about this but I don't think an island is considered an exclave.

The reason for this is because it is entirely surrounded by water, not another piece of land. Islands are not usually considered to be exclaves.

https://homework.study.com/explanation/is-hawaii-an-exclave.html it's paywalled but the answer came through on google.

The island is right beside both Canadian and Denmark (greenland) land, so it's not exactly isolated or surrounded by either.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Greenland might count as an exclave itself, though.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

... Not if islands are not.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Oh shit, yeah, I forget it's considered an island.

I see Indonesia borders Papua on that map, and that's the same situation. Plus, Greenland isn't treated separately from Denmark, which would be the other possibility.

Maybe they don't have data on it? /s

[–] overcast5348@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Edit: I'm wrong, ignore the rest of my comment. Leaving it around for the world to see my shame.

An enclave is one country's land that's completely surrounded by another country's land.

The land border between Canada and Denmark is on an island, and each country "owns" half the island. There's no enclave involved here.

[–] blaue_Fledermaus@mstdn.io 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] overcast5348@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Oops, my bad.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 3 weeks ago

It's totally arbitrary for the purposes of making the map look better. Otherwise Indonesia wouldn't be on the continent.

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 4 points 3 weeks ago

Also, Denmark and Sweden, via the Øresund Bridge

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 week ago

The vikings were far more impressive the last time.

[–] ThrowawayPermanente@sh.itjust.works 13 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Canadians: Look how they massacred my boy

[–] rockerface@lemm.ee 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 3 weeks ago

Australia really didn't deserve this. She could have been in the tip of Asia where Indonesia is. Which reminds me why is Indonesia in the continent?

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah. Where's our border with Denmark?

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I like how organized North and Central America are

[–] MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net 8 points 3 weeks ago

First Nations peoples will remember this

[–] LesserAbe@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

I realize it could be a lot harder to organize but I'd be interested in a version of this where the size of the country corresponds to the number of countries it touches. In this version seems like we get some weird shapes/sizes just to fit everything into a circle.

[–] niktemadur@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

There are several seas here: Red, Mediterranean, Black and Caspian. The Arctic and Antarctic Oceans are not represented, that'll minimize the perimeters of Canada and Russia.

Overall, this is a very intriguing visualization of the political world. Fascinating stuff. Which I'm not sure I fully understand, don't get what "topology" refers to, but to me it evokes an image highlighting different altitudes, as with mountains, valleys and coastlines.

[–] Pulptastic@midwest.social 2 points 3 weeks ago

If altitude is portrayed I don't see it. I think this map is purely to show borders/adjacency without consideration of size and only vague consideration of location. Size kinda sorta correlates with the number of adjacent countries but also seems a bit arbitrary.

[–] vaquedoso@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

This is wrong, argentina also borders bolivia and Paraguay doesn't border chile

[–] hswolf@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

also Brazil borders France

[–] JayDee@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Why is India so small on the map? I am confused by the size choices here. Is it based on neighboring nations?

Edit: ya know, I really should'a read the text.

[–] ninth_plane@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

I wonder what it would look like with embassies included

[–] HonoraryMancunian@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I don't get the bit about Brunei and Indonesia being linked to afro-eurasia

[–] runlikellama@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Malaysia has a part on the mainland and also on an island (which it shares with Brunei and Indonesia I believe)

[–] HonoraryMancunian@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

Oh is it they should be on the outskirts of the map otherwise, as they're oceanic?

[–] boyi@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 3 weeks ago

being linked to afro-eurasia

Why not? Kalimantan is part of (South East) Asia.

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 1 points 3 weeks ago

The biggest land border France has is with Brazil.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 week ago

This could actually be really handy if you want to do a road trip and spend as much time in customs as humanly possible.

[–] tombruzzo@lemm.ee 0 points 3 weeks ago

This is like the UK Metro map of the world.

Now do one of Middle Ages Europe