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[–] Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

"Fellow Leftist"?

Leftists don't rig elections.

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

No true Scotsman would do this

[–] Siegfried@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

You would surprise your self. In latin america every party riggs ellections. Maduro did it before. Everybody knew it. The only difference here is the margin.

[–] Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Then in Latin America, there are no leftist parties.

I'm not saying "leftists are too pure to rig elections" what I'm arguing is that from the definition of leftist it immediately follows that rigging elections is fundamentally incompatible. Leftist believe in workers having control. If the workers have control, it implies the existence of a democratic process. From this it immediately follows that officials who don't have qualms rigging elections are acting in ways that are fundamentally incompatible with leftism.

[–] desertdruid@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 weeks ago

Pretty much this, all these parties will call themselves "leftists" but they are centrist at most.

[–] Oneser@lemm.ee -5 points 3 weeks ago

Everyone rigs elections

[–] Sorgan71@lemmy.world -5 points 3 weeks ago

the parties they support so often do.

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

It's funny to see how this is reported in different countries. Some don't focus much on the "unpleasantness" remark, they focused on this pearl also in the article:

"It's different to a dictatorship—it is a government with an authoritarian slant but it isn't a dictatorship the likes of which we know so many in this world."

[–] desertdruid@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

This is so funny, they almost said "no no, I mean yes, this is a dictadorship but it is a GOOD one"

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago

Who the fuck is calling Maduro a leftist?