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[–] AFaithfulNihilist@lemmy.world 93 points 1 month ago (16 children)

We are lucky we got Tim Walz instead of Newsom. Tim really cares about outcomes but Gavin is all about appearances.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 73 points 1 month ago (4 children)

This is fucking insane. He wants them to create housing immediately, as if building things like apartments doesn't take time.

Bad enough that the camps are being broken up. They literally have nowhere to go but prison. Oh well, at least the private prisons are making their slave quotas.

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 57 points 1 month ago (2 children)

He wants them to create housing immediately, as if building things like apartments doesn't take time.

He says that occasionally, but that's not really what he wants, he just wants homeless people gone out of sight and out of the minds of his donors and their customers. If they disappear into housing that's fine, but he's ok with other solutions too so long as they happen now now now

Los Angeles County, in particular, has become a frequent target of Newsom’s ire. The governor again criticized the county on Thursday for delaying implementation of a law that expands the criteria for people to be detained against their will.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 31 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Absolutely. He's not an idiot. He knows he's asking the impossible when he says shit like this.

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

When is the cocksucker up for relection. We need to Primary him and remove him from politics at least as a Democrat. He fucking DINO and horrible human being. He should join the GOP because everything he does reminds me of them.

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Welp, buy them all involuntary bus tickets to South Park then... that'll solve the issue permanently. /s

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[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Forced prison labor is determined by state, not by ownership. There are Federal prisons in many states that use slave labor, socialized by our tax money.

Your point still stands though.

[–] bluGill@kbin.run 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Apartments take a few months to build. There are standard designs they build over an over again in different locations. I realize CA has earthquakes and maybe cannot take a design from Ohio (though I wouldn't be surprised if they could), but there should be plenty of designs that meet codes. If they cannot build thousands of apartments in a year the problem isn't the time it is they are doing something to make it not possible to build that fast.

Building should be by right - no need to ask the neighbors for permission or get a review (for a standard design that doesn't do anything unusual), just half hour to get the permit and then a few routine inspections along the way.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (3 children)

You read what he's saying in the article, because the implication is pretty clear that he's saying, "you house these people right now or else" as if that's possible.

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and isn't that what's really important?

seriously, we need a lot more fire fighters.

[–] Num10ck@lemmy.world 64 points 1 month ago (3 children)

maybe California shouldn't have a 3-5 YEAR waitlist for section 8/Housing Choice Vouchers housing?

maybe they should force all those empty retail/commercial/industrial/residential properties to be put to use or forced to hand over to the state.

maybe the church of scientology shouldnt be allowed to own thousands of buildings in california with no stated purposed or published staff?

[–] Landless2029@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Maybe they should also start building more apartments at rent controlled rates?

Its not just about the empty spots. Those are owned.

Its about the rich people denying apartments to maintain the clean skyline.

Edit: added also

[–] FrowingFostek@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Nah, I'm with Num10ck. There are more than enough houses with existing infrastructure to utilities. Putting up more homes is wasteful and adds carbon into the air.

The state has the power to levy a heavy vacancy tax on unoccupied spaces. I think thats the best route to getting people housed.

[–] Landless2029@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Oh I also agree we need to tax unoccupied housing. On a sliding scale too since there are land barons rampant in our nation.

This would force real estate companies to fill homes that costs them loads to keep empty. Instantly increasing supply and thus cost of rent goes down.

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[–] Desistance@lemmy.world 44 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Maybe Newsom should focus on NIMBY laws that prevent affordable housing.

[–] APassenger@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

He has done that. Not defending his homelessness position. Only saying he's mandated housing creation.

[–] Kalysta@lemm.ee 36 points 1 month ago (13 children)

Breaking up homeless encampments doesn’t fix the fact that these people have nowhere to live! What a cruel policy.

Why not emminent domain overpriced apartment buildings owned by the Saudis, Chinese, and Russians, and give the apartments away the homeless. Problem solved.

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[–] Waveform@lemmy.world 27 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

The safety net has people-sized holes in it. I nearly became homeless in June, and it wasn't the state that came through for me, it was a relative. Even though I'm stll sleeping on a porch, I count myself lucky.

The programs that are supposed to help people stay housed are failing: not enough funds for housing vouchers, restrictions too high for enrollment, and waiting lists too long for practicality.

And Gavin is a wannabe autocrat. If it weren't for him and his vetomania, we would have legalized natural psychedelics in CA by now. But no, instead we have people out there getting sick from sketchy products. And it seems like it's the same with everything: do the exact opposite of helping while making it look like you care.

Edit: there are decent leaders out there though, such as this mayor who lived as a homeless man for a week to gain some insight on the matter.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago (2 children)

A large number of the homeless people in L.A. have jobs. It's just ridiculously expensive to live there, so they end up living in their cars or a tent.

[–] sunzu@kbin.run 8 points 1 month ago

Most homeless people are invisible ie you can't tell they are homeless.

They got work, they get by as hard as it is.

But fake teevee always showing junkies on teevee, and act like they all deserve it.

🤡

[–] Waveform@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's what I've heard as well. Passing them on the street you'd probably think they weren't even homeless at all. Not everyone finds it possible to get their life together that much, though :/

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't know about L.A. in specific, but-

a 2021 study from the University of Chicago estimates that 53% of people living in homeless shelters and 40% of unsheltered people were employed, either full or part-time, in the year that people were observed homeless between 2011 – 2018.

https://endhomelessness.org/blog/employed-and-experiencing-homelessness-what-the-numbers-show/

And that was all pre-COVID and housing bubble, obviously.

There are over 650,000 homeless in America now. So even if it's only 40% of those...

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[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 22 points 1 month ago

We need real leadership when it comes to affordable housing, instead we get this.

[–] Thteven@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

Total chode move

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 10 points 1 month ago

I am so, so glad that Newsom wasn't seriously in the running to be VP. This will hopefully tank his chances of ever running for president.

[–] Junkhead@slrpnk.net 9 points 1 month ago

i hate this fucking neolib cunt so much.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)
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[–] mathemachristian@lemm.ee 7 points 1 month ago

Also known as gruesome newsom had his hat in the ring after Bidens debate. Look at his shit-eating grin https://x.com/NeriaKraus/status/1806529228835303448

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